• WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      21
      ·
      1 year ago

      Sounds like the states privacy laws might be dogshit…

      recording of mobile phone activity did not meet the Washington Privacy Act’s standard that a plaintiff must prove that “his or her business, his or her person, or his or her reputation” has been threatened.

    • lolcatnip@reddthat.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      15
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      Judges are supposed to rule based on what the law says, not what they think is a good idea. Most likely the law is just inadequate.

        • FlowVoid@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          8
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          I bet that was a Trump appointee.

          You would lose that bet. David G. Estudillo was appointed to the state judiciary by Gov. Jay Inslee and then to the federal judiciary by Biden.

          However, the article misrepresented the ruling. The actual decision (my emphasis) was:

          a plaintiff must allege an injury to “his or her business, his or her person, or his or her reputation.”

          An injury is more than a threat, it’s an actual monetary loss. To show an injury, you need to “bring the receipts” as it were. In this case, the plaintiff did not formally state their injury.

          • Asafum@feddit.nl
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            So we don’t have privacy as individuals because it doesn’t hurt our bank account, but of course that means all businesses get their right to privacy because reason$.

            Cool.

            • FlowVoid@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              edit-2
              1 year ago

              It’s a state law, so if you live in Washington state then you have to show actual damages to win a lawsuit. It should be easy to do so if (for example) a privacy breach led to identity theft. And this requirement applies to both individuals and businesses.

              If you live in another state, YMMV. Maybe you have more right to privacy, maybe less.

        • SeaJ@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          1 year ago

          Basically the judge said the plaintiff could not show any harm done to them. Someone who has been arrested based on this could definitely sue and get it stopped.

        • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          “His or her person has been threatened” implies physical harm. Sounds dumb or corrupt for privacy legislation, but unless the car companies were using the data to conduct identity theft, it wouldn’t be considered a direct threat. Obviously we know them storing the data at all is a threat, even without the data brokers, but the law is shit… and judges are usually technologically illiterate rich kids anyway.

    • techt@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      1 year ago

      The idea is the car reads your texts to you via TTS so it’s less tempting to look at your phone while driving.

      • sploosh@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        I wonder if this interacts with Android Auto. AA essentially uses your car’s speakers and screen as peripherals for your phone, so hopefully it’s sandboxed out of the car’s systems (except then it’s Google reading your messages).

      • Eezyville@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        I just turn the phone on silent. In fact silent is the default mode. To many spammers. There is nothing important enough in my life that requires immediate attention. Might change if I find a woman and get kids but not likely.

  • vamp07@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    8
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    1 year ago

    I’ll bet this is not as cut and dry as the headline makes it sound.

  • Batman@lemmings.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    It sucks but the easiest thing to do is to never enable your phone to connect to any of the car USB ports and/or their Bluetooth data service. Also find out were your car connects to voice speaker and remove the fuse from it or if you want to just cut the cable off completely.