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    A good article especially when it starts talking about platforms as infrastructure. It getting readily apparent for everyone that the centralized monopoly by a single large entity to regular control and profit off of these platforms doesn’t work. I can’t work profitability and the power imbalances cause issues. I am surprised they don’t talk about open source or regulation. We should treat all social media platforms like we do email with a standard technical method that completely interconnects with any sources. Like we are doing here in the fediverse

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    A lot of self serving twaddle masquerading as some socially concious manifesto. For ever OnlyFans model and camgirl there exists a hundred trafficking victims. What the author fails to grasp is that prostitution is a business, where the employee gets screwed figuratively and literally. Normalization of prostitution as any other venture leads will lead to an explosion of its shady side, with a couple of high class courtesans being paraded around as a proof that legalization works.

    I am 100 percent behind "sex workers" abandoning their trade and becoming gainfully employed. Some things should not be normalized.

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      No, sex work should be legalized and become a protected trade, just like other work. Only by legalizing it can you get rid of a large chunk of the shady part of it. (never all of it, but legalized sex work is 100% better than Grey zone sex work like it is now in so many places…)

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        Legalization increases supply, which also increases the shady parts. Even in the placed where prostitution is legalized the sex trade iceberg is mostly composed of trafficking victims, with a tiny sliver of voluntary prostitution on the top. We should be focusing on harm reduction, not on normalization and legalization.

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      You wouldn’t usually know where people are being silenced, since that’s kind of the point of silencing people. And if you’re in environments that celebrates sex workers, that’s your bubble, not the world.

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          This site is very one sided. Last Friday, the Canadian Parliament praised a litteral Nazi from Ukraine with Zelensky nodding his approval. I posted this and was called a Russian troll and then deleted. This site is no better than Reddit. The only difference, no ads here. You won’t find open discussion here, which I REALLY REALLY want.

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      The sex workers who don’t toe the line that sex work is great are the ones who are silenced on social media in my experience. My guess is that the trafficking victims, the drug addicts, the mentally ill and the destitute are seen as ‘no true sex workers’.

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    i remember times, when we encouraged women to get out of selling their bodies instead of celebrating it and tell our daughters as a society that it’s fine to do a few years of onlyfans and porn. i miss those times.

    also, not technology.

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      We encourage women to use their bodies for sport, for fashion, for art, for drama, for motherhood… who are you to say that they shouldn’t by their own free-will do another profession or service?

      Sex work is still work. People will choose to do it for a wide variety of reasons. Online they can be completely in control of how they do it and who they choose to work with and for.

      You can be a prude if you wish, but sex work is one of, if not the oldest profession out there. It’s going to exist whether you like it or not. Let’s just make sure people aren’t exploited against their wishes and that they can work safely and in full control of their own actions

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        “We encourage women to use their bodies for sport, for fashion, for art, for drama, for motherhood…” - stopped reading there.

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          “I have an opinion and I refuse to hear any other perspectives incase they cause me to think about anything”.

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            look, the moment you put motherood into the discussion about the pros and cons of prostitution i don’t care about what you have to say about it.

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              Yes, you really didn’t read anything else I wrote did you. Good to see that Lemmy is just as full of people who feel the need to spout their opinions but don’t actually want to engage with anyone else’s. Why should people listen to you if you don’t want to listen to anyone else?

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                i don’t care about some online dudes explaining why (self)exploitation of girls and women can be stunning and brave, you can gaslight yourself as much as you want, i won’t buy it. reminds me of a radio program i heard about a year ago when they tried to make a case how child labour isn’t such a bad thing as long as they are allowed to unionize.

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      Many people sell their bodies which we celebrate. Construction, heavy labor, mining etc. are regular people who sell their body for their living and they are all protected and regulated. We celebrate selling your body every time we watch sports for these athletes who entertain us. Every Sunday most of the US celebrates men who sell their body on the football field for our entertainment. Why is selling nude any different?

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      I guess the difference is selling your body because you have no choice vs selling your body because it’s a safe well paying alternative to being exploited in ways you have no control over.

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        sure buddy, being a prostitute is the safest way for a women to have her body and soul exploited AND it’s very well paid, i guess most of them are just doing it wrong. dig your forced anticapitalist comment, really.

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          OnlyFans models are sex workers too, for instance. Maybe your view of what a sex worker is is a bit outdated?

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            can’t wait for them to realize 10yrs later that they will never wipe their “content” from the web again.

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              People know that and still make the choice. Plus, your schadenfreude at the prospect of future suffering for former sex workers is fucking gross. You just want see people (women, specifically, I’d bet) who have sex you don’t like get harmed. That’s fucked up.