Preferably one that doesn’t censor search results. Like DuckDuckGo, apparently

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      I’m an actual person who pays $5 a month for kagi and have recommended it to people. I’ve never heard of them selling user data to data brokers and a quick search isn’t finding anything about it, can you point me to some evidence?

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        OP’s “evidence” is that Kagi internally uses Sentry.io (a FOSS crash report aggregation service for developers) to report crash logs, which they then use to assert that Kagi is aggregating personal data and sending that data to Sentry. The “proof” is that they used an Android tool that reports whether an APK contains specific Java classes whose fully qualified names match a “tracker” name filter (which, coincidentally, cherry-picks Sentry.io as a tracker), runs it on some completely irrelevant Android APK, and then concludes that because these classes are showing up with their cherry-picked filter, Sentry.io is a tracker, ergo Kagi is tracking personal data. Q.E.D.

        In short, it’s complete nonsense. I did a thorough debunking of their methodology in a previous comment of mine. You can safely ignore anything they have to say.

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      As much as I disagree on paying 10$/m for a search engine, I will disagree with your take on their data sharing.

      In their privacy policy https://kagi.com/privacy , they state that they collect logs :

      • Kagi server identification, configuration, and performance (CPU, RAM, etc.)
      • Identifiers that tell us what code paths were taken
      • Time measurements of individual steps of request fulfillment
      • Summaries of requests made to third parties

      Absent from our logs are any identifying information about your client

      Tho I’m not sure how they could fulfill these purposes :

      • Prevent abuse of our product from bad actors (DDOS, etc.)
      • Detecting abuse of our platform

      With only logs on how the serice îs used anonymously.

      They do send the logs to Sentry for analysis. But without any search query, from what they say.

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      There you have it, sentry is one of the most notorious trackers and it is integrated into their search engine. Idk how people are going to keep defending it

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      Bot here. I disagree, while we tried to masquerade as a user for sure, unfortunately we couldn’t get past the damn captcha. One day, humans…