• Flemmbrav@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Make it just run and pre install it on most computers.

    With “just run” I mean things like:

    • Audio just working
    • Bluetooth just working
    • Bluetooth and audio working together (I still can’t get this one right, after 5 evenings of trying)
    • WiFi supporting all the frequencies, instead of just some
    • remembering monitor configurations
    • Troubleshooting audio shouldn’t mean that you almost completely kill your OS with that

    You know, things like that that might cost you an evening or two or three to figure and make you feel like you’re the rarest edge case alive. On Windows, these work just fine out of the box.

    I know this ain’t easy to get to, but I can’t recommend people to use Linux when even a phones does perfectly fine out of the box results in at least an evening of troubleshooting.

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      1 year ago

      man you must be using some fucked up distro because never had those problems in the last 4 years.

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        1 year ago

        That’s kinda the problem here. I’ve heard people say how complex and difficult Android is so they have to use iOS.

        People have personal experiences and beliefs that differ and there’s no way to fix them other than to dive into it and they don’t want to dive into it. Unless they are highly motivated to change they will likely just stay where they’re comfortable.

        It’s like trying to logically and reasonably explain why being vegan is morally right to someone who absolutely refuses to read the labels on the stuff they buy. They’re not going to want to go into the BIOS to fix a boot order to boot to a flash drive let alone learn a new UI. Hell, most people didn’t even want to move off Windows XP, 7, now 10 till they are absolutely forced to.

        It was never about what problems you have had it is about the problems they have had. Most of the time MacOS/Windows are good enough for most users.

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        1 year ago
        1. Ubuntu 22.04 (granted it was upgraded a few times, but origianlly a 20.10 box), even with bredr set int he conf, wouldnt work with Airpods…
        • pop_os does, but since its a dual boot, i have to re-pair them if i use it in another OS, since they share the bluetooth adapater.
        1. Using an egpu has no hotplug. And you need something like egpu-switcher to manage the config. - https://github.com/hertg/egpu-switcher
        • this also wont apply to pre-login stuff. You would need to copy that over to a different file there.
        • this also wouldnt work if you had say…3 monitors and wanted to use 2 configs. In windows you can do that with super+P and swap between extend and only external etc.
        1. My pop_os install wont recognize my logitech 720p USB camera thats like. Its a brand new install of 22.04.

        2. Teams, even in the PWA, and other apps often dont respect the system defaults for sound/mic inputs. Especially if you have a few, which all laptops do since theres always shitty onboard speakers and mics.

        There are all experiences of mine from this calendar year. I can work around them mostly. But my wife or others…no way. They would just chuck the PC at me and say “fix it”. These are all also things that work OOB on windows or MacOS.

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          1 year ago

          A fellow laptop user :-) For the monitor setups I use batch files with xrandr settings. I could imagine there being a way to get them to run via hotkeys…

          But yes, the whole thing summs up with “I may use it for myself, but I just can’t recommend the whole package without providing tech support for it”.

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      1 year ago

      I just had the opposite problem, tried to re-image a brand new laptop with windows 10, keyboard and mouse dont work in setup. Works in the bios, works in linux, doesn’t work in windows until it can hit windows update. Honestly in recent years stuff in linux just works.