• TinyPanda@lemmynsfw.com
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    8 months ago

    Even tho you ignore the fact that hamas was elected in 2004 and half the civilians currently alive in gaza are children who would of course not voted before they were born, how do you justify the explosion in settler terrorism in the west bank since gaza has been sieged? How do you justify the bombing of civilians in the west bank if theres no hamas there? Also if i gave you a warning to evacuate your home or die im sure you wouldnt leave so why should gazans?

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      8 months ago

      Your premise that there is land which is reserved for arabs is false. If there is empty land Jews can live there. I don’t care for the idea that arabs live freely in Israel with equal rights while in the west bank, or Jordan, or Iraq Jews cannot live there, have equal rights and in fact would be killed.

      You have had 75 yrs against Israel legitimacy and Israel has to take steps for security. Israel is tiny. Why can’t Jordan, which is a part of Palestine give land to the Palestinians or the state of Israel? Why was the entire land of Jordan given to ‘the heshimite family’ who are not even native to the land ?

      It is clear to anyone clear thinking person that islamic outlook is fascist and has been at open war against Jews and non Muslims for decades and centuries. And that they have been defeated, are the losers, and now peddle this pathetic propaganda and it takes root because of weak minded people whose thoughts are based on childish slogans that are recited in unison, have you read 1984?

      This is why the media is so highly censored in these places, that they scream over any debate, they are violent fascists, relying on censorship and propaganda, using any means to advance their idiotic religious agenda.

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        8 months ago

        Empty land? My man, they’re literally kicking people out of their homes and moving settlers in, there’s videos and reports from multiple sources. It’s not the vast empty plains of the wild west after the natives died to disease.

        Vox did a great report a while back where they talked to a guy who was moved into a house a family was kicked out and his justifications for moving in and the struggles he faces in the neighborhood. The focus though was the family who got kicked out and their efforts to get it back.

        I’d link the video but I don’t wanna link YouTube and I’m sure you could find these kind of reports if you wanted to.

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          8 months ago

          In the 18 and 1900s Palestine was largely empty , the Jews a state on some land and the 1948 partition gave the Jews mainly vacant land. The pal position has been there can be no Jewish state in any form

          All throughout the 18 and 1900s the arabs warred against the Jews and kicked them out of their homes in Hebron , in Jerusalem, these court cases talking about who owns which house are obscure. And it is possible that some pals are unjustly kicked out of homes, I don’t know. But the broader conflict is that the pals are Islamic fascist who do not think Jews should be able to live anywhere or have a state anywhere and fight in any despicable way they can against it. So maybe sometimes a pal gets treated unfairly but for every 1 of these cases there are a hundred cases where Jews have had land stolen, like the history of Hebron and what happened in the 30s. And there are many cases where Arab claims are upheld by Israel, they are all over Jerusalem.