• Meowoem@sh.itjust.works
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    9 months ago

    That’s such a dumb argument, Hamas would LOVE to kill more civilians in fact they’d like to kill all the Jewish people in Israel. Israel could very easily kill everyone in Gaza but instead they’re building complex defensive systems and using incredibly expensive systems to try and limit civilian casualties.

    You can’t just go on which number is bigger.

    • DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de
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      9 months ago

      Yes Hamas are not nice people and would happily kill every Israeli, but that doesn’t mean Israel should not exercise caution to avoid killing palestinians.

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        9 months ago

        I completely agree, and I really think they do because if they wanted to they could wipe that place off the map in an hour but whats always stopped their military is global public opinion due to civilian casualties. It doesn’t make sense for them to give Hamas political capitol by targeting civilians.

        I absolutely agree some of their tactics have been brutal and civilian casualties are high but that’s true in every war.

        Israel has been making major strides in creating friendly relations where possible in the region, especially with Jordan and Saudi Arabia - the last thing they need is a brutal conflict resulting in dead Muslims, however Muslim fundamentalists benefit greatly from Israel looking bad which is why it’s likely Iran and other groups have forced this conflict and planned it in a way that makes civilian casualties impossible to avoid.

        I think there are probably better solutions than what’s currently happening, I have no idea what they would be though and everything I think of has either been tried or has obvious flaws.

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      9 months ago

      The oppression of Palestinian people by Israel predates the existence of Hamas. Gaza (until 2007 when the blockade began) and the West Bank have been under Israeli military occupation since 1967, against international law. Hamas is a more violent, more radical descendant from the Muslim Brotherhood and was founded in 1987.

      Everyone knew and knows that Hamas is radical organization bent on terrorism, but still the current Likud regime deliberately used Hamas to keep PNA-influence at bay.

      What I don’t understand is why many reject Sharia law as fascist and undemocratic, which is a justified opinion, but hand-wave Zionism even tho it’s the same fascist Holy Scripture bullshit in a different color.