Speech is being discouraged and student’s futures threatened

  • probablyaCat@kbin.social
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    10 months ago

    So other minority groups are given authority on deciding what is and isn’t racist, bigoted, etc.
    to them. Particularly amongst the left. Why are Jews not afforded that same authority? The vast majority of Jews in the US support Israel. We are typically Zionist. And when a terrorist group attacked Israel, rather than blaming the group that literally stated their goal is to kill all Jews, they blame the state of Israel for the entire situation and everything that has happened before, we aren’t supposed to see that as antisemitic? When they say Free Palestine. From the river to the sea. We aren’t supposed to see that as antisemitic? Why? Do some of us look too white to be a proper minority? Sure didn’t stop synagogues from getting bombed. Didn’t stop attacks from the Klan. Exclusion from public spaces, and this is just in the US. Should we also look at Europe? One of the reasons Jews support Israel is that now, for the first time in a long time, when people turn on us again, we still have a home.

    • Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      10 months ago

      OK you have some amazing arguments. It is really hard to find a retort to some of these, and I can’t do all of them.

      The only reason Israel can be equivalent to Jews is because Israel is an ethno-state. Israel has much greater power and control than Palestine, which is why leftists say Israel can be blamed for the rise - and funding - of Hamas.

      Antisemitic speech and hate crimes have been on the rise in the wake of this conflict, yep. I dont want to conflate crimes with political speech against the state of Israel, though.

      Protestors who are pro-palestine have also seen a rise in police action against them, and social threats. People are being threatened for their speech. Politicians who seemingly want to condemn Israel feel that they can’t because they will lose power.

      70% of Israelis think Netanyahu fucked up and needs to leave office.

      NGL I saw overt police violence from cops on orthodox Jews in Israel. Americans, by the way. American cops are training in Israel because it is the most strict police state that Americans can go to. The IDF for all its force actually fucked up so badly that thousands of Israelis were killed and hundreds kidnapped. And why did Hamas do this? Well, they are antisemitic. But the people who voted Hamas in are not, but are simply frustrated with the occupation. Israel killed all of Palestine’s good politicians who may have made a deal happen, and then let Qatar give Hamas billions. So… Israel can cut off food, water, and electricity to Paleatine, but they can allow Qatar to send billions in funding and Iran to send literal drones and missiles? Hello? Israel is to blame in so many ways, and genuinely Israeli Jews deserve better than the government that they have now that is more focused on genocide than solutions to Israeli concerns.