Shereen Wu says leading designer uploaded altered picture, amid fears AI could ‘turn back the clock’ on progress in the industry

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    Go take a look at the history of the industry and tell me this is a new low for them. Go on. I’ll wait.

    There. Are you back now? Do you understand that this is par for the fucking course? Do you understand that the fashion industry exploits young men and women all the time, doing far more fucked up things than editting their face for a photo? Jesus fucking Christ. Ya’ll motherfuckers need to learn about the enemy. It’s like being pissed off at Amazon for union busting. No fucking shit.

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      Oh, okay, maybe she should just shut up and take it then?

      Nothing gets done if people don’t talk about this stuff. The only power the masses have here is to turn this into a bad look for the companies involved.

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          Oh, I see, so because it isn’t new, we should just give up, go home and just accept racism as the norm?

          MLK would be so proud.

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            No. Rant and rave against it. Rally behind a flag of exploited youths. Just don’t be surprised when the industry does this shit. It’s what they’ve always done, and it’s what they will always do. They will not change. Ever. So, when someone willingly joins them, and then complains about things being just as bad as everyone already knows, we can all look at them with pity, because they were too stupid to make the right choice earlier. “This wheat thresher destroyed my legs!” Says the person who jumped into the wheat thresher, while still inside the wheat thresher.

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              Rally behind a flag of exploited youths.

              What exactly do you think we are doing?

              Just don’t be surprised when the industry does this shit. It’s what they’ve always done.

              You don’t have to be surprised to find something worth talking about. We talk about unhinged politicians all the time, yet we’ve come to expect them. We talk about school shootings all the time, yet they are not a surprise any more.

              So, when someone willingly joins them, and then complains about things being just as bad as everyone already knows, we can all look at them with pity, because they were too stupid to make the right choice earlier.

              So your solution is for the victim here to simply leave the entire industry? Heh. Sure. Because that’ll totally pan out alright.

              How many industry swaps have you done in your lifetime, bud? Because with a new industry comes new skillsets and completely different training requirements, which often takes years to complete, not to mention requiring completely different ways of thinking.

              “This wheat thresher destroyed my legs!” Says the person who jumped into the wheat thresher, while still inside the wheat thresher.

              “This school shooter blew my legs off”, says the foolhardy teen who had the audacity to become a student in the USA, then complain about school shooters.

              This is how disconnected from reality you sound.

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                What exactly do you think we are doing?

                You are rallying behind someone who did this to themselves. Anyone who joins that industry knows EXACTLY what they are getting into. Shit, if anyone in this thread even bothered to read the article, they’d know that she’s not even pissed she got white-ified. She’s pissed her face isn’t in the photo, so she isn’t getting the recognition. She actually says that. It’s in the article. She doesn’t give a fuck about racism. That’s all manufactured outrage from The Guardian.

                We talk about unhinged politicians all the time, yet we’ve come to expect them.

                Because we have the ability to do something about them. We can convince people to elect different ones next time. No one elects the fashion industry, and based on their long history of not giving a shit about the models, nothing in this thread is going to bring about change within the industry. It is diseased to the root. The only way to fix it is to destroy it.

                We talk about school shootings all the time, yet they are not a surprise any more.

                Yeah, because a child going to school and being shot at is exactly the same as someone choosing to become a model…

                So your solution is for the victim here to simply leave the entire industry?

                So, because she made a very poor decision, we should all help her be as comfortable as possible while living with it? Sorry, life sucks. Sometimes you waste a good portion of it on bad choices. She isn’t entitled to an easy ride because she fucked up. I know plenty of people with useless college degrees and a mountain of debt. She can suck it up and go work at Hooters. They look for the same thing as the fashion industry. Sure, the manager might be a little grabby, but at least no one will photoshop her face.

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                  So it’s her fault that she’s suffering from racial prejudices in the fashion industry? Because she dared to join and ‘we all know what they’re like’?

                  Interesting logic. Let’s expand on that.

                  Are all women at fault for any misogyny they encounter in the tech industry? That industry’s problem with women is VERY well documented, so they must know what they’re getting into, right?

                  Or how about BMEs working in healthcare. The racial discrimination issues there are also well documented, so we can let those slide right, because they should have known?

                  People like you are the reason these things don’t improve. Your acceptance of this status quo sickens me.

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                    No. These are not the same.

                    Healthcare. Tech. Shit, restaurant work. Pick a fucking profession that is even remotely necessary for the human race to progress. Those we should change. Those are worth our time and energy to fix. Those have heroic figures fighting battles for the betterment of the ones that follow so that the next generation can have a better chance at a future. The fucking fashion industry is not that. It is not worth the time to save. It is worthless even on it’s best days. Throwing any effort into it is a waste of time. There is no benefit to humanity derived from walking down the runway in fuckwad cosplay. We aren’t developing new ways to fight cancer with Frenchname McDickface’s fall line-up. Burn it all to the ground. This girl wasted her life in this industry, and she is now just another cog in the machine. I feel no sympathy for her. She made her bed, now she has to lie in it. She is not fighting some epic battle against the forces of evil to make the world better. She’s a model. She’s walking in an oval down a strip of plywood for the amusement of some art school dropout and a bunch of 1%ers. Do not put her on some pedestal with people who are actually trying to make a change.

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                    10 months ago

                    People are allowed to be upset by racism even if the target doesn’t seem to care. The labor and image rights are also a major part of the story.

                    Besides, according to the article, Costello has been accused of shit like this before. I wouldn’t be so quick to say that the reporter decided to “invent the racist motivation”.