• pimento64@sopuli.xyz
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    Off Lemmy I’ve already been assured by several dickhead accelerationists that this is actually bad, because it’s against the rules to successfully progress a liberal democracy when the One Right Way to effect change is revolution only. They’d rather people suffer more if it meant an end to capitalism, revolting “ends justify the means” mentality.

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      Those people have such a lust for violence and don’t care that the poor people they claim to be fighting for will be the ones who suffer most

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        But when I think about it, those poor people are absolutely fucked right now. By achieving small victories like these they get nothing. We have luxurious lifestyles, while the poorest don’t even eat.

        Fuck capitalism. House and feed everyone first, then play pretend with numbers.

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          Fuck capitalism, I agree. But I don’t see where a county with any other economic system was ever chomping at the bit to sacrifice to feed the poorest in the world either.

          Be angry, but realistic. Don’t fetishize revolutions. Revolutions generally kill quite a lot of people, the vast majority of whom are not members of the ruling class

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          Ok, so can we agree to do those things without killing anyone who disagrees and then spending a few decades “protecting the revolution” with a “dictatorship of the whatever?”

          Subjugating people is a terrible way to liberate them. Full stop. If you want socialism, then the only viable and sustainable path is convincing people to vote for socialism. Which is why tankie extremists are socialism’s worst enemy.

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            Who said anything about force?

            We can just spend resources to build sustainable habitats and farms for everyone.

            Where is the subjugation?

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      It’s because these people don’t actually care about socialism or equality. You can tell, because they don’t ever talk about those things. It’s all’s fantasizing about murdering their neighbors and enslaving workers under their system of autocracy in the name of their socialist God.

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        So you want to usher in a socialist/communist society in the pursuit of freedom, egalitarianism, human progress, and the elimination of pointless suffering?

        “Nah, I just want power to hurt people I don’t like, and the USSR had cool aesthetics.” – tankies.

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      “Off lemmy”

      How about trying off the Internet entirely.

      You’re in a bubble, most people in the US couldn’t correctly define capitalism, let alone have such a strong agenda or opinion about it.

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        “off the internet”

        How about trying off reality entirely.

        You’re in a bubble, most people in the astral plane couldn’t correctly define the internet, let alone have such a strong agenda or opinion about it.