I’ve been looking into this new email service. It looks promising, yet the blog posted by Tutanota kind of worries me: https://tutanota.com/skiff-mail

Their servers are run in AWS? I really don’t want to have my unencrypted emails in the hands of Amazon. And it is also mentioned that they’re US based. I mean, Germany is also in the 14 eyes, but US is a much much more anti-privacy country.

  • CrypticCoffee@lemm.eeEnglish
    142·
    1 year ago

    Have you considered Proton Mail? It’s by folk from CERN in Switzerland. So non-5 eyes. It’s a very solid and reliable email service.

    • asudox@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      7·
      1 year ago

      I did, their free plan is too limiting if you ask me and I know that they had some shady decisions in the past. I am pretty well satisfied with Tutanota. I just wanted to switch to Skiff because at first glance, I thought it was as good as Tutanota and on my Samsung phone, the notifications worked. Whereas Tutanota’s became either very delayed or did not come at all. I don’t mind checking the Tutanota app every now and then but why should I when notifications are a thing. I sure as hell will switch to a different phone since Samsung seems to be very badly rated in https://dontkillmyapp.com/. Unfortunately, turns out they’re US based (big red flag already) and they are hosting their servers in AWS (another big red flag).

      • Lunch@lemmy.worldEnglish
        51·
        1 year ago

        The reason Proton is more expensive is because you get access to more of their other services too, like cloud storage, vpn, calendar and now password manager. It’s really worth it in my opinion, services are mature and stable. Although not sure what you’re referring to with “shady decisions in the past”?

        But if all you need is a mail provider then it seems like you’re already satisfied enough with Tutanota.

        • gingerman@kbin.social
          4·
          1 year ago

          I just made the switch to proton in the last week and so far I’m happy with it, even decided to pay for a year of service. The one feature I’m surprised to see missing from the android app is conversation view. The web app has it, but mobile doesn’t. My personal email is very minimal so I don’t really care, but for heavy users this might be an issue.

          • timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works
            1·
            1 year ago

            Android is getting a complete rewrite if that’s what you’re using. Not sure on timeline but it’s coming ™.

            Odd because they recently did a huge update to android anyhow. Overall I’m quite happy with it all.

            • gingerman@kbin.social
              1·
              1 year ago

              I’m on Android. If you search for this issue, they’ve been talking about adding conversation view for years. It’s currently a non issue for me, just pointing it out for anyone considering the switch

      • CrypticCoffee@lemm.eeEnglish
        3·
        1 year ago

        “I also know that they had some shady decisions in the past.” I am assuming this is a reference to responding to a legal order to hand over details for a user. Any company would have to do the same. The problem is with the law, not the company.

        • RandoCalrandian@kbin.social
          1·
          1 year ago

          exactly. They lost their warrant canary, but that in and of itself isn’t reason enough to abandon the platform or believe it’s compromised.

          And if legal warrants are your concern, you shouldn’t be using a cloud solution at all tbh