• MxM111@kbin.social
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    8 months ago

    Sawing specialist takes multi month waiting in US. 2-3 month is typical. That’s with insurance. But a lot of people do not have insurance. They simply can’t see those.

    And as for paying more for Canadian system? That’s total nonsense. The total numbers for healthcare costs are very well known for US and Canada. Maybe you should Google them.

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      8 months ago

      I’ve lived in the US my whole life, and lived in Canada for a few years, I don’t need to Google anything. Do you have any first hand experienced with the Candian health system? Or the typical talking points you read somewhere?

      Also, Canada has the same health care everywhere, the US doesn’t, so you can’t make claims for the “US” health care system as a whole. Because it’s not one system.

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        I traveled to Canada like a lot, and talked to Canadians. They usually quite positive about their healthcare system. You honestly is the first guy who states the opposite (although, I do not talk to you in person). I live in US, and also talk about experience of other people. So, my point stands.

        As for googling it - it is your statement that it costs for Canadians more to run their healthcare. So googling actual numbers help for such statement. But I will do it for you, using ChatGPT4, because I am lazy:

        United States: In 2021, the National Health Expenditure (NHE) in the U.S. accounted for 18.3% of the Gross Domestic Product (GDP)​​. Projections for the years 2022-2031 indicate that the average growth in NHE (5.4 percent) is expected to outpace that of average GDP growth (4.6 percent), resulting in an increase in the health spending share of GDP from 18.3 percent in 2021 to 19.6 percent in 2031​​. While specific data for 2023 is not directly quoted, this trend suggests a continued high percentage of GDP spent on healthcare.

        Canada: In Canada, total health spending is expected to reach $344 billion in 2023, which is anticipated to represent 12.1% of Canada’s GDP​​.

        https://www.cms.gov/research-statistics-data-systems/national-health-expenditure-data/nhe-fact-sheet
        https://www.cihi.ca/en/national-health-expenditure-trends