• Silverseren@kbin.social
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    7 months ago

    You can drop a bomb in the middle of a crowd of people and still claim to not have been targeting the people, they were just there. Doesn’t really change the evilness of the action one way or the other.

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      7 months ago

      “They put on a blindfold and fired into a crowd with a machine gun. Clearly, as they weren’t specifically targeting the civilians in the crowd, it’s all okay!” - State Department desperately trying to come up with excuses for American policy towards Israel

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      7 months ago

      Nor does it remove it from being a war crime. Just being indifferent to whether one hits civilians or not is a war crime. The bar is one has to concern oneself actively with considering how to minimise civilian casualties.

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    7 months ago

    It seems more like a wanton disregard for civilian casualties. Blowing up entire apartment towers because they believe one or more people there were valid targets is unacceptable but not technically targeting civilians.

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    Their bombs arent deliberately targeting much of anything… Even though those bombs are extremely expensive and capable of centimeter precision targeting.

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    7 months ago

    Just like there no evidence police deliberately use excessive force. It’s just standard procedure, nothing personal.

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    All good then, you may resume. /S

    God is dead still, they keep killing him for some reason. Sides don’t matter.

    Might as well justify America’s mass shootings too. War is war.

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    For the cases when the Hamas are hiding in the same buildings as civilians (effectively using them as a human shield), what does the esteemed audience suggest?

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      7 months ago

      Don’t kill civilians.

      It’s not hard unless you’ve lost your moral compass.

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          If is if you’d open your mind a tiny bit.

          If bombing hostages isn’t an option, what else can you do?

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              It’s a city that’s >95% civilians, 50% children.

              You don’t blindly kill them is what you do.

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                I am sorry for the people there. But none of you defenders of Hamas suggest anything that is a fair price for what the Hamas did in Israel.

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                Whatever. You don’t understand the question and your attempt to force me in a box of your thinking is not working.

                I am sorry for the loss. But civilians will die as in any war.

                I understand all your lot comments about land. But nothing justifies what has been done by Hamas.

                It is them who you must blame for the consequences. The consequences is what you get when you lend your ears to those whose agenda you don’t want to understand.

                I am sorry for you guys. You put Israel and Russia on the same level. I am sorry for your blindsight.

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                  You are choosing not to understand that the existence of terrorism is not a free pass to kill civilians.

                  “Civilians will die” is you approving of attacks on civilians. They wouldn’t die if Israel didn’t bomb them.

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              I thought you said the terrorists were using civilians as human shields, now they’re all terrorists?

              Make up your mind, jeez.

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      Don’t kill the human shield? You don’t kill the hostages in a hostage situation. Well, if you’re not Israel, at least. They seem fine with killing Israeli hostages as well and just blaming the other party for killing them by them not moving them out of the way of IDF bombs.

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      Let’s say for the sake of argument that a terrorist cell popped up in your town. Would be okay for the government to carpet bomb your town, including your house, to remove them? If not, how is that different from the scenario in Gaza?

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        I understand you’re furious as many others here, but what exactly is it you suggest doing in this case?

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        In this case the terrorist organisation is the de facto government and they just escalated an ongoing conflict into a war

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          You said …

          Hamas are hiding in the same buildings as civilians (effectively using them as a human shield)

          So handing out water and food wouldn’t just be to the few (if any) Hamas members hiding there.

          It would be a great help to the innocent Palestinians who are caught in the IDF’s crosshairs.