Hope this isn’t a repeated submission. Funny how they’re trying to deflect blame after they tried to change the EULA post breach.

  • Alien Nathan Edward@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    “users negligently recycled and failed to update their passwords following these past security incidents, which are unrelated to 23andMe…Therefore, the incident was not a result of 23andMe’s alleged failure to maintain reasonable security measures,”

    This is a failure to design securely. Breaking into one account via cred stuffing should give you access to one account’s data, but because of their poor design hackers were able to leverage 14,000 compromised accounts into 500x that much data. What that tells me is that, by design, every account on 23andMe has access to the confidential data of many, many other accounts.

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      8 months ago

      I don’t think so. Those users had opted in to share information within a certain group. They’ve already accepted the risk of sharing info with someone who might be untrustworthy.

      Plenty of other systems do the same thing. I can share the list of games on my Steam account with my friends - the fact that a hacker might break into one of their accounts and access my data doesn’t mean that this sharing of information is broken by design.

      If you choose to share your secrets with someone, you accept the risk that they may not protect them as well as you do.

      There may be other reasons to criticise 23andMe’s security, but this isn’t a broken design.

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      8 months ago

      And it’s your fault you have access to them. Stop doing bad things and keep your information secure.

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        8 months ago

        you clearly have no familiarity with the principles of information security. 23andMe failed to follow a basic principle: defense in depth. The system should be designed such that compromises are limited in scope and cannot be leveraged into a greater scope. Password breaches are going to happen. They happen every day, on every system on the internet. They happen to weak passwords, reused passwords and strong passwords. They’re so common that if you don’t design your system assuming the occasional user account will be compromised then you’re completely ignoring a threat vector, which is on you as a designer. 23andMe didn’t force 2 factor auth (https://techcrunch.com/2023/11/07/23andme-ancestry-myheritage-two-factor-by-default/) and they made it so every account had access to information beyond what that account could control. These are two design decisions that enabled this attack to succeed, and then escalate.

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    8 months ago

    I’m just of the general opinion that any personal data you entrust to any corporation is going to be at risk - regardless of it’s assurances. There’s also a risk of that corporation being legitimately acquired by another thus nullifying previous TOS, etc. Or worse case, they sell all your info anyway. Connected technology is moving quickly. What might seem safe to share today could become the basis of an insurance claim denial when they discover a genetic predisposition they believe you were obligated to disclose.

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    8 months ago

    I mean, it is kinda their fault in the first place for using an optional corporate service that stores very private data of yours which could be used in malicious ways.

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    8 months ago

    In a way, it kind of is their fault for trusting companies like this in the first place. I’d never consider using companies like this and both think and hope none of my family members would either.

    Obviously, the breach is the company being incompetent like many companies are when it comes to security.

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    8 months ago

    It is, it’s their fault for sending their data to some company that wants your DNA. I’m curious too, but i’m not that dumb.