• Steve@communick.news
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      6 months ago

      Not really no.
      Kagi has vastly more features. Most are extremely useful. Including privacy.
      And the whole “funding a bigot” complaint strikes me as kind of silly. The “partnership” is just them using the Brave search API, no different than they do Google, Bing, and a few others. I even have Brave as one of my sanity check browsers when something doesn’t work on Firefox.

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        6 months ago

        So you don’t dispute Brendan Eich is a bigot, you just think it’s silly to point out that fact to potential buyers of their platform?

        Can you explain to me how a service that ties all of your searches, and payment info, to a single account is more private than one that does not?

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          6 months ago

          It’s silly to try to avoid doing anything that may, in some way support a bigot. They are literally everywhere. Even Gandhi was racist.

          It’s just the payment info, not the searches. And since their users are their only revenue source, because they aren’t selling ads, they have no reason to save searches.

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            Except Brave as a company has benefited from the sort of people who liked his ideals in particular from day one, partnered themselves with a pay-to-play Wikipedia clone made by a white supremacist, and has engaged in unethical business practices that reflect an overall corporate lack of care of other people’s consent as well.

            You might think that under capitalism or something, animal cruelty might be a huge problem too, but I doubt you would buy bullets with the express intent of shooting dogs. (I hope.)

            You also didn’t touch the gaping privacy issue.

            “They have no reason to save my data” is a poor excuse, as corporations always have a reason to exploit you. The fact you have given them money is also meaningless, as corporations like Apple have taken The money of consumers and turned around and harmed their privacy anyway.

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              You might think that under capitalism or something, animal cruelty might be a huge problem too, but I doubt you would buy bullets with the express intent of shooting dogs. (I hope.)

              This seems like a non-sequitur. I don’t understand your point here.

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              6 months ago

              Here’s the section for the wikipedia article you mentioned in your comment:

              = In 2017, Beale launched Infogalactic, an English-language wiki encyclopedia. The site was a fork of the contents of English Wikipedia which could be gradually edited to remove the influence of what Beale described as “the left-wing thought police who administer [Wikipedia]”. It has been described by Wired and The Washington Post as a version of Wikipedia targeted to alt-right readers.

              to opt out, pm me ‘optout’. article | about

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        6 months ago

        tl;dr https://searx.space/

        Edit: (since you finally clarified what you were talking about)

        At the very top of the page:

        I’m incredibly disappointed in Kagi’s partnership with Brave search. Brave, as you know, is led by Brendan Eich. Mr. Eich is infamous for his unrepentant financial support of California’s Prop 8, aka California’s gay marriage ban. Mr. Eich’s homophobia is so disgusting that he was forced to resign as the leader of Mozilla after a massive outcry from their employees and community members. Since then, Mr. Eich has only defended his homophobia, and has gone on to spread misinformation about the COVID-19 pandemic.

        I refuse to financially support any organization that partners with an organization that tolerates such hate and ignorance. It’s a shame, too. Kagi seemed like the right answer for the internet. But your success cannot come at the expense of continued attacks on the LGBTQ+ community and scientific literacy from people like Eich.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich#Appointment_to_CEO_and_resignation
        https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/22/business/brave-brendan-eich-covid-19.html

        As of right now, Kagi is yet another organization that puts money ahead of people, just like Google. If it’s too late to back out of your Brave partnership, then please set a date when the partnership will end and refuse to renew it. Then, apologize to the LGBTQ+ community for partnering with an open and notorious homophobe.

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            Instead of quoting the text where there was a link, try clicking the link

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                …have you clicked through the link and read it yet?

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                  I did. Didn’t find anything about the “funding a bigot” part specifically. So what’s the deal with the whole “funding a bigot” thing?

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                    At the very top of the page:

                    I’m incredibly disappointed in Kagi’s partnership with Brave search. Brave, as you know, is led by Brendan Eich. Mr. Eich is infamous for his unrepentant financial support of California’s Prop 8, aka California’s gay marriage ban. Mr. Eich’s homophobia is so disgusting that he was forced to resign as the leader of Mozilla after a massive outcry from their employees and community members. Since then, Mr. Eich has only defended his homophobia, and has gone on to spread misinformation about the COVID-19 pandemic.

                    I refuse to financially support any organization that partners with an organization that tolerates such hate and ignorance. It’s a shame, too. Kagi seemed like the right answer for the internet. But your success cannot come at the expense of continued attacks on the LGBTQ+ community and scientific literacy from people like Eich.

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich#Appointment_to_CEO_and_resignation
                    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/22/business/brave-brendan-eich-covid-19.html

                    As of right now, Kagi is yet another organization that puts money ahead of people, just like Google. If it’s too late to back out of your Brave partnership, then please set a date when the partnership will end and refuse to renew it. Then, apologize to the LGBTQ+ community for partnering with an open and notorious homophobe.