• Veraxus@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    My basic web dev Docker suite uses about 13GB just on its own, which - assuming you were on 16GB (double Apple’s minimum) - wouldn’t leave much for things like browser tabs, which also eat memory for breakfast.

    A fast swap is not an argument to short-change on RAM, especially since SSDs have a shorter lifespan than RAM modules. 16GB remains the absolute bare minimum for modern computing, and Apple is making weak, ridiculous excuses to pocket just a few extra bucks per MacBook.

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      3 months ago

      Have you seen the difference between the 8 and 16Gb Macbooks, it is ridiculously expensive.

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          3 months ago

          Yes, my bad, I wanted to say the difference in price between the 8 and 16Gb model, I know that RAM became dirt cheap nowadays and there aren’t any excuses for Apple to continue offering 8Gb model, as this is exactly a planned obsolescence.

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            3 months ago

            Yeah I was just pointing out the insanity of their pricing, using sarcasm. Its the main way we communicate over here.

            The price difference between the first 2 models where 8gb ram is the only change, is £200. Post 2025 I’m going to need some solution to replace my windows install which solely runs CAD/CAM software. If it wasn’t for this scumbaggery I’d buy a Mac to replace win10, but at present apple are such a shower of cunts I think I may have to put up with win11.

            What a fucking choice…

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      3 months ago

      Playing devils advocate here: As someone who deals with stuff like that, you also wouldn’t buy the base model mac. The average computer user can get by with 8GB just fine and it’s not like you can’t configure Macs with more than that.

      That of course doesn’t justify the abhorrent price of the upgrades…

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        3 months ago

        The average computer user can get by with 8GB just fine

        Hard disagree. The average computer user is idling at 5gb already because the average computer user is stupid.

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          3 months ago

          Still leaves 3gb for the web browser and the average user isn’t using anything else anyways. And even on chrome that’s quite a few pages.

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        3 months ago

        And here I am, putting 16gb in every machine I work on because it’s so damn cheap there’s no reason not to future proof

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          3 months ago

          I mean, same. The difference in price for 8GB and 16GB is negligible, especially if you want dual channel on desktops

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              3 months ago

              Oh yea, absolutely. I meant that in regards to the price of memory itself, be it as modules for your desktop PC or the chips itself for soldered solutions. Apple’s markup is bonkers

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              3 months ago

              That’s because apple is a greedy grabby company who wants all your money. The easiest solution is to stop buying their products

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            3 months ago

            My girlfriends mum wanted to know why her laptop was slow… It was because HP thought that 4gb of ram is acceptable in 2022 (when the laptop was sold). Granted ram wasn’t as cheap then as it is now… Still I paid £30 for a brand new 8gb DDR4 sodimm, there’s not reason hp couldn’t do that. It’s annoying the corners these company cut.

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              3 months ago

              My experience is, that 4GB is just about useable for a bit of web browsing and similar stuff. Even on windows 11. I have an old Surface Pro 4 laying around that, in a pinch, works perfectly fine with 11. Of course, it’s not fast. But it’s totally useable.