There’s a tendency in this heated political climate to simply reject people who are saying false things and to write off conspiracy theorists writ large.

But as the US approaches the third straight election in which misinformation — and the fight against it — is expected to play a role, it’s important to understand what’s driving people who don’t believe in US elections.

I talked to O’Sullivan about the documentary, in which he has some frank and disarming talks with people about what has shaken their belief in the US. But he paints an alarming picture about the rise of fringe movements in the country.

Our conversation, conducted by phone and edited for length, is below:

WOLF: What were you trying to accomplish with this project?

O’SULLIVAN: So much of mainstream American politics now is being infected and affected by what is happening on what was once considered the real fringes — fringe platforms, fringe personalities.

And I think really what we want to do in this show is illustrate how these personalities may be pushing falsehoods, but they’re no longer fringe. This is all happening right now. And it is having a big effect on our democracy.

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    You can’t defund education and not expect this outcome. If you want a functioning democracy, you need good and complete education for all citizens. I doubt there is any cheaper fix for this problem. An educated citizens is, on average, more resistant to bullshit. Education is the best investment a democracy can make.

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      I’m only saying this because your post is about education and you also did it twice.

      But its spelled citizen.

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      Unless you’re a republican. Then please, get rid of school requirements. Put education in the responsibility of the parent. Reduce teaching wages and extra curricular activities.

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      One of the things I learned in sociology class in a Department of Defense high school in the 80s was educated people are easier to propagandize.

      I’d go look look it up in Safari and come back to this message with links but whatever this client app is on iOS with the mouse icon will not save the state of my work and I’ll never find this conversation again .

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        my college educated and brown but still trump loving siblings are proof enough that propaganda works whether or not all citizens are educated.

        even fediverse commenters will down vote you for pointing out that someone like biden voted to ban gays from marriage and the military and saddled everyone with non-discharge student load despite it being demonstrably true and recent.

        people will believe what they want to believe and it doesn’t matter how well educated they are.

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        Yep. because they have a false sense of what they know.

        Esp the people who are educated at BA level… when you get to MA/PhD it gets different, but you can’t expect most folks to ever attain that level of education. Because it’s only in graduate work that you realize how little any of us really knows and how much work (a lifetime) it takes to be an expert of a very tiny slice of the world.

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        It’s probably true, in some contexts.

        If you are a foreign government? Or internal powers wanting to enact an authoritarian and religious regime that hurts the peoples it’s trying to convince? Then probably not. Educated people are going to be harder to turn against their own interests.

        A DoD high school?

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      Education is the best investment a democracy can make.

      Which explains why one candidate was saying “I love the poorly educated”.

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      That’s not true at all.

      Plenty of the highest educated people in American are pushing this nonsense. Why? Because it makes them money. Crazy bullshit sells penis pills.

      Education has nothing to do with it. If anything being super well-educated makes you overconfidence and more likely to fall for this shit.

      What makes people not likely to fall for it? Skepticism. That’s what. Our education system is built making corporate drones, and the people who succeed at being yes men are most likely to get the best grades and the jobs.