This is a death sentence for Tesla. I have a Model 3 that I enjoy despite its shortcomings. One of the deciding factors was the supercharger network. It’s the easiest system I’ve used for charging. It makes all other networks infuriating in comparison.
A lot of people get Teslas for the ease of charging alone. If the network starts to falter, people will leave the brand even faster than they already are.
Tesla really needs to vote this idiot out of the CEO position before he kills the company.
Not to mention the charging infrastructure is one of the reasons some people haven’t made the switch yet. Anything holding back charging expansion is a disaster in my view.
I don’t think that’s it at all. The cost of a new car, any new car, is still out of reach for the vast majority of Americans, much less a dedicated daily commuter vehicle (because you need a gas car for long trips). PHEV is an imperfect compromise, but there simply aren’t enough used PHEV models available on the market.
I bought a car last year, and I really wanted to get something electric, but the car I need just doesn’t exist at the price I can afford. Chargers didn’t factor into it.
You say “you need a gas car for long trips”, and “Chargers didn’t factor into it”.
Isn’t that directly contradicting? Why else do you feel like you need a gas car for long trips if it isn’t related to either not enough chargers or chargers still not being fast enough for you? Chargers absolutely factor into that part of why you didn’t buy electric yet.
But also, the notion that they can’t do long trips is already pretty outdated. There are very few places left where you would even need to take a detour to take a long trip in an electric car. The only downside is that charging at max speed takes about 3x as long as filling with gas still, and not every charging station is max speed. As that continues to improve, it’ll be less and less of a difference.
So, funding the R and D department of the charging network, as well as the construction of the charging network, are absolutely fundamental to more people adopting electric as their single vehicle choice. And not as their second vehicle only for one small purpose.
I hope that’s a wakeup call to all the other automakers who announced plans to switch from CCS to NAC"S"
Big fucking mistake basing future plans on that company
Why does it matter? The standard is now open and can be used by everyone. It’s just like CCS now from a usability pov but with many more chargers
How many non-tesla nacs charges are there?
How many ccs chargers are there compared to nas? That’s the question that matters to GM Ford and other automakers
My point is that even if nacs is open, it is a monopoly. Tomorrow Tesla decides to ask 100$ per month to access the network and you can’t go somewhere else. In EU the mandatory plug is the same for everyone and Tesla chargers must have ccs2 and Tesla cars must have ccs2…
I understand that. But building chargers using their ports is an option and will be something that happens. It just answers the customers of other OEMs of whether to charge their cars now. And even if Tesla controls a significant portion of the charging infrastructure now there’ll be others that build chargers with that standard with time. And I’m sure there was some closed door agreement they came up with on pricing
Dude it’s how many years of “electrify America” project that is supposedly supported by the biggest car manufacturer and the network is terrible. Nobody will go compete with nacs because Tesla has the market penetration and it’s ubiquitous. I guess the mon-tesla will change the plugs on some select locations and that’s it. But we’ll see how it goes with the supercharger network after musk fired the entire team…
Crazy. I’ve been a long-term Musk supporter (because of meaningful business targets: EVs and Mars colonization), but these recent events I cannot support. Laying off employees while not at the same time demanding Universal Basic Income on a state level (so that no single corporation is disadvantaged) is a death sentence to the worker population, and that, I cannot support. I’m out.
Did you support him when he was falsely accusing a rescue diver of being a pedophile?
Mate, be willing to accept people when they finally change their mind. Otherwise they’ll find they might aswell stay in their echo chamber.
Namaste.
The electric car company who spent years pissing off liberals is faling? whodathunkit
Yeah to this day I don’t understand this “genius” business move. My redneck conservative dad sure as hell isn’t buying an electric vehicle anytime soon, even if you put a giant MAGA hat on it.
So the company had a downturn, and has to cut costs to maintain profitability. Charging is not the core product, so why spend money on it. It almost makes sense.
Musk does have a habit of making large single-minded bets and it surely takes a giga-ego to do that. His rise was based on some of those being correct, but we’ll see if this one is
And herein lies the danger of Billionaires. Who stops them when they want to impose their tyrannical agendas on the vulnerable. Who prevents him from buying an atomic weapon and setting it off for a meme stunt or internet points ?
Who prevents him from buying an atomic weapon and setting it off for a meme stunt or internet points ?
You have to be joking.
Nearly every military in the world. Countless regulatory agencies. Intelligence agencies the world over. It’s pretty much known that the US made stuxnet to kill one country’s nuclear program. Do you seriously fucking think they wouldn’t stop a single billionaire?
There’s also the fact that even he’s not that insane, and any other billionaire out there who wouldn’t want the effects of a nuke going off to get in the way of their own shit.
If you were talking a dirty bomb, that might be within his reach. Buy some mines in third world countries, mine up some material, strap it to a conventional bomb. That’s also many orders of magnitude less severe (while still horrific). Also, most mining rights in areas with worthwhile radioactive material available have already been bought up by other entities with similar financial levels of backing.
Actual nukes require quite a bit more than just an explosive and some radioactive material to build anyway, and things like nuclear material refinement facilities are quite easily visible from satelite imagery. They also require specialized hardware that is closely monitored. Sure he could pay to reverse engineer and/or get it built. Good luck keeping that secret for as long as it would take.
The man’s a living embodiment of a chode with a diamond studded piercing. There’s plenty of shit to be upset at him about, or worried about, without getting anywhere close to this absurd. I sincerely hope that you weren’t being serious.
If you want shock factor, talk about the slave mines his family wealth comes from, and the slave mines where we source lithium from for EV batteries. Talk about the high frequency of using child soldiers as security for said mines, in addition to the child slave labor.
Talk about the highly likely intentional killing of Twitter by Saudi Arabian government’s investment into Musk as a retaliation for the Arab Spring and as a way to further control rapid information dissemination during crisises.
There’s real reasons to despise him, going for such extremely ridiculous exaggerations only hurts the point you’re trying to make.
Is that because the automotive industry decided to go with the North American standard for rapid chargers instead of Tesla’s? If so, while heartless, it makes sense from a business standpoint.
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The NACS connector is the Tesla connector. NACS was entirely their doing; Tesla won this format war. So what’s for them to be salty about?
The only wrinkle is that older Teslas require a reflash to work with the new (or rather old, same as CCS) communication standard that would be used by NACS equipped non-Tesla charging stations.
