GrapheneOS. Among the considered Android custom ROMs suitable to use, it is THE snake oil for security and privacy. It is mostly a rebranding of AOSP features and kdrag0n’s project put on top of AOSP. It is a deep rabbit hole. I did a dissertation of what it is over a year ago. https://i.imgur.com/pQHoq84.jpg
Linux/FOSS/privacy communities across Telegram, 4chan, Reddit and Lemmy are filled with propaganda they disseminate, often via few hour old accounts or via long thesis like comment spam. They have instructions on how to do this publicly. https://imgur.com/a/fpcsIL2
Any questioning or criticism of this snake oil product will result in an instant ban, and further questioning may result in internet wide harassment, bullying and witch hunting.
Great alternatives are CalyxOS and LineageOS. The devs and community behind them are respectful, helpful and welcoming of criticism. They also do not harass critics and go around shit flinging on other FOSS projects. They also do not shill for Big Tech or Google/Apple.
Edit: seems like GrapheneOS sockpuppets are back at downvoting
So if I understand you correctly, Graphene OS does everything it says it does but overhypes its differences with other forks. That doesn’t sound like snakeoil, only effective marketing.
Why shouldn’t I use it over the other forks then, particularly because useful features like hardened_malloc are only avalible on Graphene despite being widely ported to linux distros?
They also do not shill for Big Tech or Google/Apple.
What’s the story behind this? I’m genuinely curious.
I will say I strongly dislike how the developer has handled criticism, but that seems to be more a failing of the dev then a problem with the OS.
Micay wants to steer everyone away from Firefox towards Chrome, towards everything Google, believing in Micay’s vision, believing in closed source security and so on. He also used to shit on Android and believed and propagated the claim that Fuchsia is the future, where Google’s microkernel would rule the mobile world. I think he is a Google fanboy more than anything else, and we have many such Big Tech fanboy specimens in this world.
GrapheneOS officially supports and encourages the use of Google Play Services and a Google account for “security” purposes. Their “unofficial” members also spread propaganda advocating for the same.
They are also an embargo partner with Google for security patches, and add features that may threaten the lives of privacy users, or end up in jail or death in certain circumstances.
I’ve seen this sentiment before, but I’m waiting to switch until I learn how to add the microphone and camera quick toggles included in GrapheneOS to LineageOS. Is there a project for that?
This is unfortunate, Bouncer seems to have died off Play Store. You could get an APK of it. I can share mine if you like, scan it on VirusTotal. I have kept it for years now.
GrapheneOS. Among the considered Android custom ROMs suitable to use, it is THE snake oil for security and privacy. It is mostly a rebranding of AOSP features and kdrag0n’s project put on top of AOSP. It is a deep rabbit hole. I did a dissertation of what it is over a year ago. https://i.imgur.com/pQHoq84.jpg
Linux/FOSS/privacy communities across Telegram, 4chan, Reddit and Lemmy are filled with propaganda they disseminate, often via few hour old accounts or via long thesis like comment spam. They have instructions on how to do this publicly. https://imgur.com/a/fpcsIL2
Any questioning or criticism of this snake oil product will result in an instant ban, and further questioning may result in internet wide harassment, bullying and witch hunting.
Great alternatives are CalyxOS and LineageOS. The devs and community behind them are respectful, helpful and welcoming of criticism. They also do not harass critics and go around shit flinging on other FOSS projects. They also do not shill for Big Tech or Google/Apple.
Edit: seems like GrapheneOS sockpuppets are back at downvoting
So if I understand you correctly, Graphene OS does everything it says it does but overhypes its differences with other forks. That doesn’t sound like snakeoil, only effective marketing.
Why shouldn’t I use it over the other forks then, particularly because useful features like hardened_malloc are only avalible on Graphene despite being widely ported to linux distros?
What’s the story behind this? I’m genuinely curious.
I will say I strongly dislike how the developer has handled criticism, but that seems to be more a failing of the dev then a problem with the OS.
GrapheneOS does things exactly the same as AOSP but under different feature names. This is pretty much snake oil. Not effective marketing.
… is part of Linux kernel, so Android already has it. It is not exclusive to Graphene.
Micay and his minions call Firefox insecure because Micay has a personal grudge against Tor devs that did not exist before August 2019 for some reason. https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2019-August/013995.html
Micay wants to steer everyone away from Firefox towards Chrome, towards everything Google, believing in Micay’s vision, believing in closed source security and so on. He also used to shit on Android and believed and propagated the claim that Fuchsia is the future, where Google’s microkernel would rule the mobile world. I think he is a Google fanboy more than anything else, and we have many such Big Tech fanboy specimens in this world.
GrapheneOS officially supports and encourages the use of Google Play Services and a Google account for “security” purposes. Their “unofficial” members also spread propaganda advocating for the same.
https://i.imgur.com/bUdVCpH.jpg
They are also an embargo partner with Google for security patches, and add features that may threaten the lives of privacy users, or end up in jail or death in certain circumstances.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220829223401/https://twitter.com/GrapheneOS/status/1564322206414524420#m
https://old.reddit.com/r/privacytoolsIO/comments/pjl4bh/what_is_your_opinion_of_grapheneos_conforming_to/
I’ve seen this sentiment before, but I’m waiting to switch until I learn how to add the microphone and camera quick toggles included in GrapheneOS to LineageOS. Is there a project for that?
What kind of quick toggles are you talking about? You can use Bouncer to accomplish similar thing on any Android phone out there.
In the pull down area where flashlight and Bluetooth toggles go, GrapheneOS has options for disabling the camera and microphone.
Sounds great, but I can’t find “bouncer” on either the F-Droid or Google Play stores. Anyone got a link?
This is unfortunate, Bouncer seems to have died off Play Store. You could get an APK of it. I can share mine if you like, scan it on VirusTotal. I have kept it for years now.