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I am a fairly radical leftist and a pacifist and you wouldn’t believe the amount of hoo-ra military, toxic masculinity, explosions and people dying, gun-lover bullshit the YouTube algorithm has attempted to force down my throat in the past year. I block every single channel that they recommend yet I am still inundated.
Now, with shorts, it’s like they reset their whole algorithm entirely and put it into sensationalist overdrive to compete with TikTok.
Same here. I’ve never watched anything like that, yet my recommendations are filled with far-right grifters, interspersed with tech and cooking videos that are more my jam.
YouTube seems to think I love Farage, US gun nuts, US free speech (to be racist) people, anti-LGBT (especially T) channels.
I keep saying I’m not interested, yet they keep trying to convert me. Like fuck off YouTube, no I don’t want to see Jordan Peterson completely OWNS female liberal using FACTS and LOGIC
I am a fairly radical leftist and a pacifist and you wouldn’t believe the amount of hoo-ra military, toxic masculinity, explosions and people dying, gun-lover bullshit the YouTube algorithm has attempted to force down my throat in the past year. I block every single channel that they recommend yet I am still inundated.
I really want to know why their algorithm varies so wildly from person to person, this isn’t the first time I’ve seen people say this about YT.
But in comparison, their algorithm seems to be fairly good in recommending what I’m actually interested in and none of all that other crap people always say. And when it does recommend something I’m not interested in, it’s usually something benign, like a video on knitting or something.
None of this out of nowhere far right BS gets pushed to me and a lot of it I can tell why it’s recommending me it.
For example my feed is starting to show some lawn care/landscaping videos and I know it’s likely related to the fact I was looking up videos on how to restring my weed trimmer.
I think it depends on the things you watch. For example, if you watch a lot of counter-apologetics targeted towards Christianity, YouTube will eventually try out sending you pro-Christian apologetics videos. Similarly, if you watch a lot of anti-Conservative commentary, YouTube will try sending you Conservative crap, because they’re adjacent and share that “Conservative” thread.
Additionally, if you click on those videos and add a negative comment, the algorithm just knows you engaged with it, and it will then flood your feed with more.
It doesn’t care what your core interests are, it just aims for increasing your engagement by any means necessary.
Maybe it depends on what you watch. I use Youtube for music (only things that I search for) and sometimes live streams of an owl nest or something like that.
If I stick to that, the recommendations are sort of OK. Usually stuff I watched before. Little to no clickbait or random topics.
I clicked on one reaction video to a song I listened to just to see what would happen. The recommendations turned into like 90% reaction videos, plus a bunch of topics I’ve never shown any interest in. U.S. politics, the death penalty in Japan, gaming, Brexit, some Christian hymns, and brand new videos on random topics.
My shorts are full of cooking channels, “fun fact” spiky hair guy, Greenland lady, Michael from vsauce and aviation content. Solid 6.5/10
I gave up and used an extension to remove video recommendations, blocked shorts and auto redirect me to my subscriptions list away from the home page. It’s a lot more pleasant to use now.
The algorithm is just garbage at this point. I ultimately just watch YouTube exclusively through Invidious at this point, can’t imagine going back at this stage.
Don’t know about youtube, but I have a similar experience at twitter. I believe they probably see blocking, muting or reporting as “interaction” and show more of the same as a result.
On youtube on the other hand, I never blocked a channel and almost never see militaristic or right wing stuff (despite following some gun nerds, because I think they are funny).
The children will defend tiktok with their lives, crying about how it doesn’t matter non-allied foreign powers can manipulate the algos and narratives.
I don’t see this as a China problem. It’s a lack of regulations and oversight problem. Allied foreign powers (or one specific power to be precise) push far right via social media onto Europe as well.
Chinese company bytedance tries to fragilise western democracies episode 1937392
American company meta tries to fragilise western democracies and personal freedoms episode 1937392
You know two things can be true, right?
Chinesecompanybytedancetries to fragilisewesterndemocracies episode 1937392Logically the number should be higher than the previous comments (just sayin’).
No no, this is a parallel show running right after the one before.
Did anyone actually read the whole article? These comments sorta read like the answer is no.
The researchers say that their findings prove no active collaboration between TikTok and far-right parties like the AfD but that the platform’s structure gives bad actors an opportunity to flourish. “TikTok’s built-in features such as the ‘Others Searched For’ suggestions provides a poorly moderated space where the far-right, especially the AfD, is able to take advantage,” Miazia Schüler, a researcher with AI Forensics, tells WIRED.
A better headline might have been “TikTok algorithm gamed by far-right AfD party in Germany”, but I doubt that would drive as many clicks.
For more info, check out this article: Germany’s AfD on TikTok: The political battle for the youth
It doesn’t matter if it is intentional or not, only the result matters: TikTok gave them boost in the visibility. Whether it was “an algorithm” or any other aspect of the company is irrelevant.
Also knowing how scummy these social media companies are and how they operate inside, there could be some internal memo to the moderators to let the AfD reign free (happened with Twitter and Libs of Tiktok).
WTF cares? Why the fk is the left so hell bent on censorship and controlling of all narratives?
“Why are leftists so concerned over foreign authoritarian governments directly influencing the elections in their countries???”
Unless there’s a clear violation of elections, like ballot stuffing and fraudulent votes by non-citizens and dead citizens… I could give a fk less. People have a right to speak their mind whether intelligent or psycho babbles.
You are either incredibly naive or speak in bad faith. Pushing propaganda to misled the public in elections is much more dangerous than stuffing a few ballots into the box.
