so a common claim I see made is that arch is up to date than Debian but harder to maintain and easier to break. Is there a good sort of middle ground distro between the reliability of Debian and the up-to-date packages of arch?

  • EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world
    3·
    8 days ago

    Tbh my main gripe with Tumbleweed is the package manager as someone who likes to use the CLI, the weird naming convention, renames, etc are annoying. Also found some minor annoyances that all put together made me choose Fedora over Tumbleweed. I can see why some people would like it tho.

    • boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net
      1·
      8 days ago

      You can use dnf on OpenSuse, and it actually uses the correct /etc/dnf.repos.d !

      zyppers UI is horrible, no idea at what internet speed those animations make sense, not on an even 2,4GHz wifi.

      I used QGis as a Fedora Distrobox didnt install the language package, because it installs only the one from the OS. on Tumbleweed all languages were always installed, but it had some issue where no plugins worked or something.

      Same with RStudio, which works creat with iucar/cran COPR and the R-CoprManager app that makes it use dnf underneath.

      Rstudio should absolutely install them as libs though, into /var/lib. Then the Flatpak could be made working too I guess.

      • BCsven@lemmy.ca
        1·
        7 days ago

        I found zypper package speed for download seems to vary a lot, sometimes superfast and other times it drips in like old dialup. Maybe server load or what default server it hits is too many hops away or something. It also does delta doownloads, ehich makes sense if your data is capped, but takes a lot longer to negotiate the lookup for update, compare versions, and pull delta only.

        Good thing about zypper and SUSE setup is you can use the various patch, oatches list patches commands to see what is unneeded, recommended or critical, CVE, and if has already been applied to your system or not. Great tool for sysadmin

        • boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net
          2·
          7 days ago

          Because they have Slowroll and working, automatic BTRFS snapshots.

          I have no idea what dnf Fedora is doing, using BTRFS but no snapshots.

          • EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world
            1·
            7 days ago

            I think fedora does have some automatic snapshots, just not as much as OpenSUSE. Still tho, why not setup better snapshots on Fedora rather than switch package manager and repos altogether on openSUSE?