• Eheran@lemmy.world
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    26 days ago

    Capitalism or socialism or anything else is irrelevant when most people are dumb, easy to manipulate and ready to harm others. There will always be someone willing to be a leader of these people, harming others to gain something.

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      25 days ago

      “I am 14 and this is deep” material here. No analysis of anything, no thoughts, just an edgy nothingburger.

      What about Socialism is “irrelevant” if most people are “dumb?”

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            24 days ago

            How is the answer no? Socialism killed just as many innocence people as Nazis did. Capitalism likely more than both, but spread out over time and the world instead of localized events. They are thinking they somehow do the right thing while begin monsters, because that is how they were manipulated. Some their whole life without ever knowing any different. The same way Russians think they need to destroy Ukraine, Trump voters, North Koreans that Americans are baby eating monsters only stopped by their god-leaders good haircut, Hamas that killing Israeli civilians is great, etc.

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              24 days ago

              How is the answer no? Socialism killed just as many innocence people as Nazis did.

              No. Read Blackshirts and Reds. Socialism doubled life expectancied in Russia and China, it saved millions of lives.

              Capitalism likely more than both, but spread out over time and the world instead of localized events.

              Fascism is Capitalism in decay.

              They are thinking they somehow do the right thing while begin monsters, because that is how they were manipulated.

              Your fanfiction isn’t reality.

              The same way Russians think they need to destroy Ukraine, Trump voters, North Koreans that Americans are baby eating monsters only stopped by their god-leaders good haircut, Hamas that killing Israeli civilians is great, etc.

              You do realize that you are more propagandized, right?

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                24 days ago

                Mate, live expectancy went up because of general improvements due to better tech. Everywhere, just a little sooner or later depending on how quick they went from the classic farmers to more modern agriculture, medicine etc.

                My fanfiction is what happened and happens all over the world. Why do you think the Japanese thought they are so much better and committed atrocities? Because of their genes? What about the Nazis? What about the Americans genociding Indians? Australians the aboriginals? Etc. etc. all over the world throughout history.

                How am I “more propagandized” when I point out that these things exist? Explain.

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                  24 days ago

                  Mate, live expectancy went up because of general improvements due to better tech.

                  Partially, but vastly more due to huge social safety nets, like free healthcare and education, housing programs, and more, which were only possible because the Proletariat was in control.

                  My fanfiction is what happened and happens all over the world.

                  No, your fanfiction is ahistorical. The socialists saved countless lives, the Nazis campaigned on genocide.