What use to be the PPA that allowed Ubuntu users to use native .deb packages for Firefox has recently changed to the same meta package that forces installation of Snap and the Firefox snap package.

I am having to remove the meta package, then re-uninstall the snap firefox, then re-uninstall Snap, then install pin the latest build I could get (firefox_116.0.3+build2-0ubuntu0.22.04.1~mt1_arm64.deb) to keep the native firefox build.

I’m so done with Ubuntu.

  • ebits21@lemmy.caEnglish
    543·
    11 months ago

    Yeah they’re all in on snaps. Vote with your distro choice.

    • neutron@thelemmy.club
      17·
      11 months ago

      I’m afraid they’ll break off Debian one day. Supporting snap is one thing, sabotaging well established user cases (apt installing deb, not being a snap prozy) is another.

      • garam@lemmy.my.idEnglish
        4·
        11 months ago

        On my corporate laptop, because they require ubuntu to… well spy on us, I wrote a interface in front of snap to works like flatpak… as snap forcing through on everything I work on…

        At least I tried to disable it. and failed, so I wrote a piece of junk code to accomodate my flatpak muscle memory

    • Hominine@lemonine.hominine.xyz
      English
      141·
      11 months ago

      What I don’t get is why. What with the recent Red Hat debacle one would think Canonical would make a stronger case as opposed to force feeding the issue.

        • garam@lemmy.my.idEnglish
          61·
          11 months ago

          haha… ubuntu on enterprise doesn’t even touch 5% of the market, where 90% of it is RHEL and 5% another is Windows Server and some OSX… so… I don’t think canonical is dumb enough

          *please read, enterprise market, not hobbyist. Hobbyist doesn’t make money for ubuntu. Well if the hobbyist is a decision maker in enterprise, they probably will have effect, but the problem is, most of them opt in RHEL/Clones

            • garam@lemmy.my.idEnglish
              2·
              11 months ago

              You can look into fortune 500 report on Server stack, and self published red hat report. Red Hat claims is higher, but I will say, it should be at max 90%, not 95% as Red Hat Claims.

              https://fortune.com/2013/05/06/how-linux-conquered-the-fortune-500/#:~:text=Today more than 90%25 of the Fortune 500,Hat%2C the largest vendor of Linux support services.

              https://www.redhat.com/en/about/company

              Seems they revise it. hem… the fly-er I got for Red Hat academy promotion written is 95% in 2019… strange…

              But anyway, you can see anywhere, on any business medium high, mostly use Linux.

              Azure, 100% backed by Red Hat in their Infra, even Microsoft doesn’t deny or agree with it. AWS 100% EL based (old times RHEL, nowdays Fedora), Linode, Scaleway, Contabo, Hetzner, BiznetGio, Aliyun (even their Aliyun/Alibaba Linux is RHEL), OVH, etc. so I will say it’s high enough… that almost entire infrastructure rely on Red Hat Engineering. At least if Red Hat gone, CentOS Stream code still there, Fedora Code still there. The community can continue to develop it.

              Ubuntu only popular and first class only on Digital Ocean. No other cloud providers make ubuntu first class other than DO. Sure enough Ubuntu/Debian is there, you can install it, but, it’s not entirely first class as RHEL/Clones

              Hate it or love it. Red Hat still the king of mission critical system except in Europe, where SUSE is leading, but SUSE itself is well… have same or near identical to Red Hat… so… welp… kind like in same EL boat.

              Some will say data like this https://www.enterpriseappstoday.com/stats/linux-statistics.html#The_Most_Popular_Linux_Distribution is more re presentable for general mass, but I don’t think it’s for enterprises…

    • AeroLemming@lemm.eeEnglish
      9·
      11 months ago

      Are forks of Ubuntu like Mint and Pop_OS still good choices, or do they suffer from a Chromium-style lack of freedom?

      • Holzkohlen@feddit.de
        10·
        11 months ago

        Mint is great. Definitely one of the best distros around. PopOS I’d wait for their new DE. Though with Ubuntu going balls deep on snaps, all those ubuntu based distros hang in the balance. At least Mint got a Debian edition already and they are working on a new version right now. Or just use straight up Debian with flatpaks, which is what I do.

        • Fonzie!@ttrpg.network
          1·
          11 months ago

          Mint also does not force either dpkg/apt-get/apt nor flatpak.
          Even its GUI installer is a GUI wrapper around dpkg and flatpak, every application available on both shows a drop-down allowing you to choose between the two.
          You can also change its config to allow other sources, in case you want to add something else like snap.

      • Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca
        8·
        11 months ago

        The Pop_Shop gives you the option via a little drop down of flatpak/Deb. I’m not sure if the option is flagged by application developers or system76.

      • Dubious_Fart@lemmy.mlEnglish
        1·
        11 months ago

        I recently went to Nobara, not a Deb/Ubuntu fork, but its literally been the easiest, smoothest Linux install/usage experience of my life.