• captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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    20 days ago

    They aren’t as stupid as they come off as. They know things are bad and that the rich are fucking them they’re just wrong about how and why

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      19 days ago

      They think the Dems are the ones allowing the CEOs to fleece us and think Trump will do something about it. They are stupid and easily manipulated. Their legit anger, but lack of skepticism is allowing them to be lead around by charlatans.

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          19 days ago

          Many Dems actually believe that they are the good guys and aren’t also to blame for the corpo nature of America.

          Two sides of easily manipulated angry people being led by charlatans.

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            19 days ago

            Many Dems actually believe that they are the good guys and aren’t also to blame for the corpo nature of America.

            Biden increased the minimum corporate tax rate from 0% to 15%. By following the money (and the tax rates) we cut thru the tired bullshit of vague claims. The best way to achieve clarity is to focus like a laser on what happens with tax rates.

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            19 days ago

            Can we not do “both sides are the same” as we’re sliding into a dictatorship?

            Most younger D voters don’t actually like the DNC and don’t believe that they will help much. They just prefer that to the active harm the Republicans are trying to achieve.

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              19 days ago

              Most younger D voters don’t actually like the DNC and don’t believe that they will help much.

              Lets not pretend its just youth. Its every demographic, isnt it.

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                18 days ago

                I know too many boomers and GenX who were excited for Biden and Harris. Don’t get me wrong, I still voted for them and kept my cynical comments offline until after the election, but I sure as hell wasn’t excited.

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      19 days ago

      They know things are bad and that the rich are fucking them

      Which they 100% enabled.

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      19 days ago

      Nah they’re fucking concavebrains. They think Harris was the greedy corrupt party and that Trump will drain the swamp.

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        19 days ago

        The DNC is a greedy, corrupt party which is wildly out of touch and only exists to enrich themselves

        Before you @ me, the GOP are howling fascists who are just better at spinning the narrative by establishing an “other” as a scapegoat

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          19 days ago

          Given that both parties, on a global scale are right of centre that makes sense. Dems are right of centre and more similar to most other nations right wing parties and that just pushes the republicans further right. You have no left wing party, just a party that is more left than the other.

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        19 days ago

        Biden/Harris didnt give a crap what Dem voters wanted or what was good for society. So the DNC have been concavebrains for a good long while as well. You’re not exactly wrong, but ‘Glass houses’, friend.

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          19 days ago

          Biden was a good president, his competition wasn’t even close as far as what is good for america, and Biden won the primaries because more people voted for him.

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            Biden was against so many things that dems wanted, like single payer health care and medicare for all, and he directly enabled a far right genocide of innocents when 87% of dems (at one point anyway) did not. He also pretty openly sucked off the rich. He could have fixed our broken racist classist justice system and he went the wrong way entirely on that. He was against expanding the supreme court and now look where thats led. Straight to a sweep of every single lever of power and the stage set on his watch for very possibly the end of the republic.

            Doing a bunch of unpopular things and then running again when he should have known he was both too unpopular and too medically incapabale to win essentially knifed every Dem right in the back.

            I wouldnt bet on history being kind to Biden. I guess I could send you a much longer list of ways he was a terrible senator and a terrible president and deserved his low approvals, but whats it matter anymore?

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              If there were any reality where Dems had enough votes for single payer then he as president absolutely would have signed it into law with no hesitation.

              You’re basically speaking in tongues about choices people did not make in alternate dimensions.

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                And you’re pretending the president couldnt have worked toward it, and that the only thing he can do is whats handed to him on a silver platter with all the votes ready to go. That thing he is missing is called leadership. The president is supposed to be the leader of the party and is supposed to push forward the party platform, not wait in his chair like a noble waiting to be handed a message that he has won something.

                He didnt even try to work toward it. We needed a leader and we got a right leaning dealmaker with a lifelong fear of criticism from the right and a fetish for making republicans happy and feeling like he’s on his own side and who cares what his partys platform is.

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                  18 days ago

                  They literally couldn’t have. There have been more GOP than DNC for his entire term. Independents and VP were enough to be a tiebreaker and give majority leader, but they still didn’t have enough votes because the USA citizens repeatedly keep choosing not to fix things.