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  • I’m not going to read all that, as I started and realized you are, once again, either being disingenuous or your zealotry is clouding your argument, either way, it’s very clearly invalid from the first paragraph as you set up the strawmen again to bolster your flawed position.

    As such, I’ll respond up until then point you go off the rails:

    I said keep religion/mental illness out of the (governmental) workplace. If you need to express your mental illness to everyone in the work place you aren’t fit to work there. You need to seek help. Your display of religious paraphernalia is no different than you viewing porn on your computer/phone where everyone can see it. It’s no different than you wearing other objectionable material. You just have this arbitrary line in your mind at “religion” because that’s your thing and you can’t conceive the fact that it’s offensive to other people. It’s not offensive to you, so it’s ok. But other things are offensive to you, so they aren’t ok. That’s your bias.

    There are things that are offensive to you that are not offensive to me but I’m not the one arguing to allow those things in the (governmental) workplace because I’m not a self centered narcissist who thinks my way is right and any other way is wrong. I want to treat everyone equally, which means no special carve outs for religion. You want to treat religion as a special case.

    That is wrong. Plain and simple.


  • Jesus dude, you just can’t see the forest for the trees, can you? You are exactly the type of person I’m talking about, textbook.

    Nobody said anything about “chucking out the entire person.” I said mentally ill people, which is what religious people are, should not be in a government job. They should go work in a church or some other mental institution that caters to their particular brand of crazy. It’s impossible to have a rational discussion with a zealot like you, because you keep using strawmen and fallacies, and just making up stuff other people have “said” so you can make your increasingly erratic and wild “point,” of which I don’t even think YOU know what it is at this point.


  • I would argue that the zealotry is yours. I am not arguing for the removal of whole subsects of people from positions of government as though atheism ( or whatever term you want to use for your complete absence of belief since you refuse to identify as an atheist) is the only approved belief set of the state and that we should be expunging all others.

    This is why you’re a zealot. You keep talking about expunging all others, and excluding, and if people don’t believe like you do, they are “atheists” or whatever other label you put on them. You don’t even see your own biases and religion in your writing and thoughts. YOU are the zealot. I am advocating keeping the governmental functions free from religious influence, nothing more. YOU keep putting words in my mouth. That’s what religious zealots do… they twist the facts to fit their preconceived notions of the world and their imaginary friends.

    YOU are advocating for mental illnesses that are “acceptable” to you and those that aren’t. I’m saying NO mental illness should be allowed, regardless of the source. The fact that you don’t understand this indicates that you have that same mental illness you claim you don’t have (mentally ill people don’t usually know they are mentally ill, case in point with you) and that you don’t want to be “excluded” because you aren’t fit to hold the position you covet. You SHOULD be excluded until you seek help and cure your problems.



  • Exactly as I thought. You don’t even understand your own hypocrisy with regards to which mental illness are ok and which aren’t. Even when they are pointed out to you directly you refuse to acknowledge them… Just like a religion. No amount of logic or facts will shake your belief in your ridiculous nonsense because you simply lack the ability to self analyze and react to facts with reason and rationality.

    I’m literally arguing with a religious zealot for all practical purposes, whether you admit it or not. You are the religious person I’m talking about.


  • I never said anything about atheism. It’s interesting and telling how you jump to that conclusion.

    Yes believing in imaginary beings is a form of mental illness. The fact you can’t understand that is also telling as to what your issues are with what I’m saying. Being religious is absolutely and without question a form of mental illness.

    Life is difficult and drug addiction, alcoholism, rape, domestic abuse, self-harm, etc helps people navigate it and comforts them… So by your twisted logic we should all condone those forms of mental illness as well. Gotcha, that makes perfect sense.

    You clearly suffer from the mental illness of religion, so you aren’t exactly the best person to be arguing for it, are you? A heroine user is going to put forth the same arguments as you do for heroine… But somehow you are right and they are wrong? Lol

    The thing with religion is, if you have the intelligence and aren’t otherwise mentally impaired, you can look at the evidence critically and come to the logical conclusion. It becomes a choice. Unlike drugs, etc… Where you have a biological dependency driving you, making it harder to quit. An otherwise healthy human can choose to quit religion without much difficulty, so that’s really on you at that point.

    But I digress. We don’t allow drug users, etc in government positions, so why do we allow religious nutcases? Keep your shit out of government. Go work in a church.



  • Why do I need to accommodate someone’s mental illness? Being religious is a choice, not a genetic trait you can’t change. You can choose to just stop. It’s not my job to accommodate someone’s imaginary friends.

    The “hat” isn’t the issue. A hat is hat. What the hat represents is the problem. If you believe in imaginary beings that watch and control you, you aren’t fit to perform duties in government offices. You need to be in therapy and a hospital.

    How is it any different than if someone wants to look at porn at work? Porn is very formative for many people. Why is imaginary friends ok but not imaginary girlfriends?