If that happens good? Why do we think having countries and borders that creates strife a good thing? If we eliminate all borders and are just humanity I see that as an absolute win.

I’m curious. When you read articles about how great the economy in the US is and it’s just the voters that don’t understand, do you agree? Do you believe the US government no matter how badly they do? If you don’t believe the US government on this, why do you believe what their propaganda says about their enemies?

It’s because they were never that effective before. But with the advent of drones, they have suddenly become a wildly important protection. This is cause the drones can get stuck in those slat gaps. No other weapon before had this kind of weakness. They were all basically just ballistics before drones.

I don’t know why this isn’t talked about more, but the reason for the disconnect is that USA has become a petrostate. As a petrostate, the rich get wildly rich and makes the economy look good, while the citizens are fed a bunch of religion to keep them from protesting.

The truth is it’s all propaganda from both sides and no one actually knows what’s going on. And because I’m saying this anywhere I’m probably going to be downvoted to oblivion as either side will downvote me. However, what we do know is:

• China has admitted there are training camps in the Xinjiang Area.
• The training camps are mandatory and people have been forced to go there.
• The graduates have been spread all over China gaining employment in pretty much every factory in China (This imho is because it makes things impossible to sanction)
• The people are compensated for their time in the training camps (This is what makes them forced labor camps in theory)
• It is a cultural thing where guests in Xinjiang are invited to sleep in the same bed. This has lead to many stories of Chinese people forcing themselves into the bedrooms of Xinjiang people.

What we are sure isn’t quite right:

• They are not genociding the people in the camps. This is why the conversation has turned to “cultural genocide” whatever that means. I believe this is propaganda to reinforce that they could be genocide when there is no evidence.
• There is a lot of fake evidence for the genocide. For example the prison camp image or the truck that is censored but has red liquid leaking out of it were all doctored. Just this alone has to make you question the truth of those claiming genocide.
• The “leaked list” of prisoners is fake. It contains HK movie stars and actors.

What we could probably conclude:

• I’d argue that there is forced labor occurring as they are literally being forced into training camps and getting paid for it.
• There is no forced labor in the factories USA is claiming there is. After graduating, the students are welcome to move and work where they want, so this can’t be forced labor.

Final questions:

• What happens to those who won’t participate in the forced training camps? We don’t know, and that’s ultimately where the disconnect and miscommunication is coming from. The west is claiming they’re being killed. China isn’t saying anything but then are at a minimum keeping them locked up indefinitely. So, in the end, it’s a bad situation for sure but it’s likely not as bad as the western propaganda makes it look.

As insane as this is, fentanyl has surpassed alcohol deaths.

https://drugabusestatistics.org/alcohol-related-deaths/#:~:text=95%2C000 Americans die from alcohol-related causes annually%3B 68%2C000,health consequences of drinking too much over time.

And alcohol is massively damaging. Just want to put that in perspective. So I guess booze up cause alcoholics have to catch up?

Actually, China’s emissions are plateauing according to recent studies.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-s-co2-emissions-may-be-falling-already-in-a-watershed-moment-for-the-world/ar-AA1kiKG9

So, I guess fingers crossed we don’t all die in a ball of fire.

Yes? Not sure what your point is? I’m sure all those dead Palestinians really appreciate not being alive to enjoy that donation.

That’s because you aren’t in a bastion of US propaganda. You know like reddit or Facebook. They don’t control the narrative here.

The US does horrible things everyday, like feeding Israel weapons of genocide with no limits. Why shouldn’t we talk poorly on US everyday?

The funny thing is that people think China would disagree with that map, yet that map is exactly what China claims. In fact, Taiwan claims far more than that map, so the only source of disagreement technically would be on the naming. However, China, or Sino wouldn’t actually care. You think China is the name they gave themselves or even use or say that term? That was a Western nomenclature put upon them in the first place.

China’s largest gas company is called sinopec, not chinapec. So that weird name change is meaningless to them. If that made the west happy so they could take over Taiwan, they’d do it in a heartbeat.

What you’re saying is true, but misses the point. Yes, larger content creators can get sources of income besides advertising. However, the whole point of youtube is to let anyone big or small get started. Small creators can’t get started if they don’t have a source of income. So that’s where the advertising comes in.

In a sense, twitch builds upon the success of youtube. They took large creators who could get the $5 subscriptions on to their platform. But this only increased the need for youtube to court advertisers.

In a world without advertisers paying content creators, our options would be severely limited. We want small upstarts and cutting off their source of income is a terrible idea.

Unfortunately, our world requires the necessity evil of youtube doing whatever it can to stop ad blocker. No matter how nice it is. And if you as a user are satisficed with the limited content from large creators, as you said, there’s always twitch.

Actually the other person who tried to disagree with me made a great point for my argument.

Youtube needs content creators and pays them through advertising. If advertising stopped, there would be no content creators.

So regardless of if it’s storage or bandwidth, they absolutely need to stop ad block. Otherwise no one will make content for youtube.

…yes, so google desperately needs those advertisers to advertise. And if they stop, their content stops existing. So yeah Google has to stop ad block. Otherwise who’s going to make anything for YouTube?

*Edit as you said

Google isn’t just giving away their money.

So they need advertisers to give out that money or they have no one posting videos.

Unless you think Google will just start giving out money.

So then they need to do whatever they can to stop ad block. Because Google pays shit loads of money due to ad revenue. I’m not sure how your logic disagrees with anything I said.

That’s fine, but that’s why Google is doing this. They need people who won’t watch ads to stop using it to lower their costs. I mean what business survives with zero income? The question google is asking isn’t whether or not some people will stop using it, the question their asking is will enough of them stop for them to generate income.

But that’s the point. Russia was doing terrible anyway. Is this new 14% poverty rate any worse than when the war started and they were stealing toilets to begin with.

I mean I have no idea, but this article doesn’t show evidence one way or the other.

I hate to tell you this, we won’t learn a god damn thing. Humanity forgets it’s atrocities as quickly as a generation passes. We do not learn the lessons of our fathers anymore. All we see are repeats after the old have passed on.

I don’t think we have differing opinions actually. I’m saying there have been many countries that have stated they do not see the stuff USA talks about to make it reasonable to ban. They all shut up and followed the US after 2020 and individuals even started to say Huawei is more evil than American companies. Again without any particular evidence.

Would I argue that Google and Huawei do similar and equally bad things, yes absolutely. I’m just tired of people attacking Huawei and saying they’re worse than American corps. That’s all I’m trying to say here.

That’s because the accusations and bans were on telco equipment. Hell, you can still buy Huawei phones on Amazon if you wanted to in the states. You don’t seem to understand what all the propaganda hub bub was about to begin with.

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I think you’re completely misunderstanding my position. My position is Huawei is considered worse than google because of US propaganda. Not that Huawei is better than google. And that propaganda is not substantiated.

There was no rebuttal. All those words agreed with my statement, that there’s no evidence and they hardened their position because of the US.