What I find infuriating is that this same meme also happened at the provincial level in Quebec in 2018.

I mean, even if you’re a labour fan, I can’t imagine needing to do a coalition with the liberal democrats and greens would hurt. That said, I don’t know much about UK politics.

Taiwan is not recognized by most countries.

Because of the Chinese Civil War (which technically never ended), both the government of Taiwan (under the name “Republic of China”) and Beijing (under the name “People’s Republic of China” claim to be the ‘real China’. At some point in time, most people recognized the Republic of China as the legitimate government of China, however, as the situation stagnated and the relevance of China became more important, most countries now recognize the People’s Republic of China as the legitimate government of China.

As for the NATO question - no, no such rule exists and nobody would want such a rule because it is a defence pact.

I’ve spent a lot of time trying to evangelize Lemmy on reddit, and one of the most common criticisms is the possibility of defederation and getting cut off from major communities.

Frankly, if this is a concern to people and I believe it does concern some, they should not use federated platforms as this will always happen.

We know that Lemmy slowly bled tens of thousands of users in the months following the reddit API exodus as users drifted back to reddit. Although it’s impossible to know how many of those users were annoyed by the defederation drama, I think it’s safe to say that the number wasn’t zero.

The steep decline in active users on Beehaw in the months following the decision is probably the best source of hard evidence supporting my claim.

You’re saying that the decline in active users on Beehaw is a result of these defederations while simultaneously acknowledging that Lemmy as a whole lost users. Maybe it is true, maybe it is not. I could not make such a claim with this information.

I remember hearing this story a long time ago, It’s still so shocking that this happened.

This is just enlightened centrism. No. Nobody needs to defend the harms done by technology.

We can accept the harm if the good is worth it - we have no need to defend it.

LLMs can work without the harm.

It makes sense to make technology better by reducing the harm they cause when it is possible to do so.

I mean, I don’t understand the point of an encryption that people can decrypt without it being intended. Just seems like theatre to me.

But yeah, obviously the intended parties have to be able to decrypt it. I messed up in my wording.

This is a false equivalence. Encryption only works if nobody can decrypt it. LLMs work even if you censor illegal content from their output.

Some of the posts linked in the OP include such a list but honestly, feel free to name any moderation feature and I’ll tell you how it’s actually broken in some fashion.

Not necessarily, we could move to a non-federated platform.

Some of the moderation issues that we’ve talked about in the past are linked in the OP post. I will say that it has only gotten worse over time. I cannot think of a single moderation feature which actually fully works. That is how bad I think things are. They’re all broken in subtle ways. Yes, even reports are broken.

Frankly, from what I have seen, kbin would actually be a downgrade when it comes to the issues we’re facing.

Well, we have stated that we are not trying to be reddit. There are more reddit-like alternatives than the more traditional forums that are possibilities.

We entirely expect that if we move away from Lemmy, we will lose people. Will that be for the better or the worse? Nobody can know as nobody can predict that future. It’s a very difficult position.

GDPR is not an issue per se - we can delete people’s stuff easily. Can’t delete it from other people’s computers, that’s all.

This already applies to email and online archival tools - Lemmy is not much different in that regard. What is on the internet stays on the internet - all we can do is ask for it to be deleted.

Was this something of a hindsight is 20/20 situation, wherein with more consideration, something else may have been adopted?

We considered many other problems when in the inception phases and had initially decided to make our own - this did not turn out as we had wanted and so we came back to the drawing board.

Or has it been banking on some optimism in federated communities becoming the new norm?

I would certainly say that some of us have rose tinted glasses for federated communities but it’s certainly not unanimous.

As for whether or not we made the right choice, I don’t know. I do genuinely think there are big problems when it comes to Lemmy’s lack of focus on moderation and some of these are compounded by broken federation.

We’ll likely never know, honestly.

From where I’m standing, I can’t really much has changed unfortunately… which really sucks…

Lemmy.world has grown substantially meanwhile the moderation tools have not improved at all. All I can say about the moderation tools is that we now know that the tools suck more than they used to.

Here’s a list of moderation problems that we have discovered since then:

• If a Berson is reported on another instance, we never get the report.
• If a mod is banned from the community they mod, they can still take mod actions
• If you get site-banned from Beehaw while you are from another instance, you can still post on the community and people from that instance and kbin can see your posts
• People from other instances can’t know who if someone is an admin on the instance they’re interacting with
• People from other instances can’t see when we use the shield function to signal we’re talking “officially / as a mod”
• The modlog is not chronological
• The modlog breaks if you ban someone for more than 4 digit days.
• A banned user’s description is still visible so if they link to a scat image in their description, it is still visible to moderators.

Despite these newly known problems, there have been exactly no improvement whatsoever to the moderation tools. It is honestly unsettling and terrifying.

It appears it was because of misoginy and queerphobia.

On this post (https://beehaw.org/post/561345), they were advocating for women to be treated as inferiors based on the story of Adam and Eve.

On this post (https://beehaw.org/post/562870), they were advocating for people to stop celebrating pride, compared gay people to murderers and thiefs and advancing the idea of a bigoted “silent majority”.

Looking at their newer posts on kbin, I think this was the right call.

There are no issues with federating that community it seems, we just banned its prominent poster (https://beehaw.org/u/10A@kbin.social).

Hey there, could you tell us what community this is happening on? It’d help us troubleshoot why this might be happening

That’s certainly true but the issue is that we don’t really have other options. Lemmy’s system allows for little delegation outside of giving full admin powers. There’s an issue to improve that but as with all of Lemmy’s moderation woes - it seems no one is working on it.