But that’s not the topic? I wish MGTOW would just go their own way already instead of pestering everyone with their bullshit.

Where in the study did they wrote that?

Yeah, I don’t know. I feel much more sorry for the girls and women who get hit by that hatred. And they definitely do. Online and sometimes offline as well. I see it in school (in Germany) how some boys as young as 12 already bought into the incel narratives and treat the girls accordingly. This has to be stomped out.

How are you helping the victims?

Because a lot of the people here never were the victim of a crime and think they never will be. Crime is something that happens “to others”. Especially sex crimes like rape is something people here feel especially apologetic for. Those poor rapists… I wonder why that is.

Which “economic environmental conditions” lead to rape?

Someone who tortures (including rape) or kills other people should not be allowed back into society, in my opinion. We can’t just continue to tell all the victims “Ah well, shit happens!”

But in one case the victim is a person with feelings and in the other case it’s a tree. I find it quite concerning that people seem to struggle to see the difference.

What do you mean? Sorry, I don’t understand how I am moving the goalpost.

Wasn’t the trouble some people had with the drag queen shows the dances? I don’t know the situation in the US(?), but that’s what some people disliked about some of the shows in Germany.

Here is a video of one of these shows that was a program for kindergarden kids: https://youtu.be/p2zsZHb_Y7E?feature=shared

It’s dishonest to leave it out of the discussion when people didn’t have a problem with the clothing in the first place.

I am no pro in pedagogy or whatever. Not sure if that’s super harmful or whatever tale the alt right tried to spin. But it’s definitely not just some people with a cleavage or other types of sexy clothes.

Thanks for the suggestion, I thought it was obvious

How can you even dare do suggest such an evil thing? Everybody knows men and women are completely different creatures. There’s no way they would be able to talk about mental health together! /s

“Girls are basic and boring”, “Boys are interesting and quirky”

I think it is quite unfair towards someone to be with them only because otherwise you wouldn’t have any friends. Unless of course you both know about that.

Many people do not invest in relationships and that is the main reason they end up alone. I have seen this in other couples a lot.

For example, my father always tagged along but never had any respect for the work my mother put into relationships with friends and families. When they divorced my father became a grumpy and lonely old man who gets increasingly awkward the longer he spends cooped up alone.

He believes his way out is finding another woman. He seems to be unable to understand that it shouldn’t be another person’s job to “make” his social life…

A partner is no replacement for friends and they can’t be the stand in for all other relationships.