He understands.

So, East Germany, basically, with tech.

To the best of my knowledge, back-propagation IS learning, whether it’s happening in a neural-net on a chip, or whether we’re doing it, through feedback, & altering our understanding ( so both hard-logic & our wetware use the method for learning, though we use a rather sloppy implimentation of it. )

& altering the relative-significances of concepts IS learning.

( I’m not commenting on whether the new-relation-between-those-concepts is wrong or right, only on the mechanism )

so, I can’t understand your position.

Please don’t deem my comment worthy of answering: I’m only putting this here for the record, is all.

Everybody can downvote my comment into oblivion, & everything in the world’ll still be fine.

You don’t have to do ANYthing in order to have copyright on your images.

That is standard throughout the Berne convention & has been for decades.

Registering makes court-cases easier to win, but having copyright on one’s renditions isn’t in any way requiring that one have registered anything with anybody.

Wasn’t there a competitor named Mattermost?

a FLOSS competitor?

Anybody who ignores the Financial Class, and how civilization’s laws are formed in concordance with money-lobby/authority, isn’t competent to be discussing what system we are living-in.

Capitalism without highjacking-of-the-system-of-laws is capitalism.

Once highjacking-of-the-system-of-laws is included, it changes to moneyarchy.

As it exists, it is a mixture of oligarchy & corporate-moneyarchy, but it definitely isn’t “just” an economic system, it is a world-governing regime.

https://www.vox.com/2014/4/10/5601062/oil-curse-explained

Perhaps you didn’t know that perjury is S.O.P. for tobacco companies, but, of course, prison-time for contempt-of-court can’t happen on a corporation, only on us…

Go look up The Panama Papers, & see if moneyarchy isn’t the correct term for what the evidence shows to be actuality…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers

Moneyarchy is the correct & proper term.

As for socialism, whose concept of socialism are you claiming competes against moneyarchy?

Sweden’s seems insane: EVERYbody pays huge taxes AND gets welfare…

Don’t they understand that the more “recycling” of money per unit of result, the more lossy their economy becomes, the higher the “friction” or “viscosity” ( pick your metaphor ), and the smaller the percentage of their effort that actually produces results??

Which Socialism?

• codependency
• interdependency
• ideology-centered
• practicality-centered
• things I haven’t thought-of go here…

I’ve never seen a governmental version of Socialism that wasn’t the codependency-version or the ideology-religion one.

Meritocracy & Socialism … what is in the intersection between those, on the Venn diagram? Nothing?

“you can’t have any meritocracy with socialism” seems to be the belief, among many, but Sweden’s education system seems to get meritocracy right ( unless I’m remembering another Scandi country’s version ), where they simply don’t permit any bypassing of the national meritocratic education system…

Because of political-motivation, objectivity isn’t permitted in this world, and neither is practicality, from what I’ve seen…

And that kind of meta-rule wrecks everything else.

Hell, even gaslighting about “Representative” Republic being “democracy” is so normal I keep forgetting to put that back in viewable place…

As some have noted, the ones who rule make certain that people have things other than the actual issues in-view…

and that is 1 of the characteristics of the -archy regimes, where the population is just herd-animals, consumed by the powers that really run the world ( for-profit corporations parasitically feed-on the human-herd, manipulating humanity’s awareness to remain fed-upon, is one accurate metaphor )

The whole narcissism/machiavellianism of orienting government to the most-successful narcissist-machiavellian, and through “elections” making certain that competency & responsibility are punished, in the “game”, by giving authority to the narcissist-machiavellian ones, preferentially…

Reward-systems are feedback loops and have consequences…

Try convincing … anybody … that Boris Johnson is a thorougly-responsible person…

Highjacking of authority from responsibility and accountability … is sooo complete, now…

How come people can’t see that?

Anyways, I meant not national-level competing ( in a different country ), I meant:

IF you find moneyarchy in the US to be bad, then why don’t you create an alternative-to-moneyarchy economy within the US??

You want socialism, or barbarism, or maybe you equate the 2 ( from your phrasing I can’t know which ), so, why don’t you form socialism-competing-against-moneyarchy in the US?

Why don’t you & all the believers-in-socialism create socialism in the US?

Is there some law that prevents socialist businesses from existing??

Is there some law that prevents socialist groups of businesses from existing??

The fact that there simply doesn’t seem to be ANY such competing-economy IS EVIDENCE that either it isn’t permitted by government, or that it isn’t permitted by the moneyarchy regime, or that the socialists, themselves, aren’t competent to do it, or all 3 of them, simultaneously.

DECADES everybody has had to be producing alternative-economies within the US, and … where are they?

I just realized that I’m including perspective that is required, and not common.

“Slicing Pie Handbook” is a book on startup equity-slicing.

Without understanding how equity needs to be properly distributed, and … ah, yes, “Founder’s Dilemmas” is also required … when people who aren’t responsible gain authority, you CANNOT make the business/system/regime work… the ones who gained authority without responsibility effectively highjack the enterprise, holding it hostage to their whims/demand/extortion, and … if the contract that is in-place permits them that authority, the enterprise may need to die…

Remap that to country, and corporations, instead of an individual company with persons, and the same highjacking happens, especially when financially-emplaced political-parties ( and, through them, their financial backers ) are the highjackers.

Responsibilityarchy is the real requirement, but it’ll never be tolerated by any incumbent political power, left or right.

Not responsible AND accountable? break them from authority, then.

Have you got any idea how long that kind of idealism would be allowed to live?

1 week, maybe?

Socialists have the same ability to create businesses as anybody else, so why haven’t they created socialist businesses, & multiplied the things until 20% of the businesses in the US are socialist operations??

even 5%??

There is something fundamentally wrong with what the evidence is showing, and its showing that that apparently can’t evolve…

All this begs the question:

Why not learn crochet/knitting, & make one’s own, of whatever yarn one wants??

( that will happen, for me: I’m fed-up with things that never fit right, or are wrongly designed )

Obviously, therefore, competing against the system of moneyarchy would be the only possible means of displacing its dominion on the world, so, …

… how come nobody’s doing it properly, or at-scale??

I’m talking about a competing economic-system, not competing against a few companies within moneyarchy’s regime.

: )

I’ve become of 2 minds about leather footwear & gloves:

The primary alternative to leather is plastic, which, when it breaks-down, sabotages the food-web, right?

Leather doesn’t do that.

I honestly don’t know what The Right Answer™ is, on that one, anymore.

I’m usually vegan, btw, not for ideological/religious reasons, but simply because doing otherwise blocks my ability to reach the meditations I need.

I do find butchering animal lives for a mere few-meals unethical, but refugee Buddhist monk Kelsang Gyatso pointed-out in one of his books, IF a person has anemia, THEN the right antidote is eating red meat.

He’s ordained, a Geshe, and he is recommending that right in his dharma.

Years-enduring clothing is a much less desolating consumption than needless meat-eating.

Exactly as that brilliant psychological truth in the Christian bible shows, naive truth, aka symbolic “truth”, is syrupy-sweet in one’s face/mouth, whereas digested & real, experience-induced-understanding Truth, is bitter.

See for yourself:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation 10%3A8-10&version=CJB

There is an error that many in the dispute are making…

Imagine that BORG-AI is an ai that was trained ONLY on GPL2 program-code…

Imagine that you use it to fill-in some functions in your codebase…

What sort of copyright-status should be on those??

I say they should be GPL2, and they should be considered derivative of the ENTIRE training-data-set.

That doesn’t mean I think that the BORG-AI should be a copyright holder, though!

I’m saying that there should be a NEW category, between uncopyrighted & copyrighted, and that the training-sets need to be segregated by license, so that derivatives CAN know what their legal licensing-status is.

GPL2, GPL3, BSD, LGPL2, whatever… it needs to be consistent within the training-data-set, so that the derivative of THAT module/expert can be having the same license, see?