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I don’t like videos either tbh, but I would be ok with posts that are properly identified, so like [video] [news] [opinion] etc lol

This should be correct yes, as long as you don’t include code that was added after the license change you should be in Clearwater.

Technically speaking I don’t think it’s allowed for him to have changed the license to a more restrictive license in the first place because he didn’t rewrite the entire project when he did so which means it’s still containing code that under the license terms are supposed to be open indefinitely, but if you want to avoid all that drama you can just play it safe and Fork the version prior to him editing the license

Personally speaking now this isn’t going to stop the people that he’s trying to avoid that hassle with, because I don’t think he has legal ground because I don’t think the license change was within the allowed terms of his license in the first place

Sending as a second comment cuz I just now read your source, but it’s different than what my original comment was.

I didn’t realize the density that GPL code puts into your project, it does seem upon looking into it that that is correct that he cannot under GPL terms redistribute that software under the license that he’s chosen. He is violating the GPL by doing so, because even with permission of the contributors, GPL code cannot be converted over to a lesser freedom code without a full rewrite, because code that was generated while under the GPL can’t be locked down at a future date via a license that that is stricter than the existing one. The only thing you can do is make it less restrictive than GPL.

That being said, the only people who can report violations of code that is not following the GPL, are going to be copyright holders so if everyone was indeed okay with it there’s no one who would be able to pursue the violation anyway

My main concern is that he states that he has permission from every contributor so he isn’t misusing it, then immediately locks the repository to only people who had contributed before.

I understand it’s probably just a tactic to lower the amount of useless information from people wanting to comment from posts like this, but it doesn’t look good from a point of view of declaring Victory and then retreating immediately.

fully agree, the maintainer pulled a “It’s my toy and I’m taking it elsewhere” which is never healthy for a project like that. Instead of embracing the fact people were active in the project he only focused on the fact that there was some malicious parties that were violating GPL, so his solution was to kill most external support of the project. It won’t survive that

according to the maintainer he got permission from everyone, and those who didn’t give the permission for he rewrote the code for. Least that’s how it seems to be here

Regardless as the maintainer of that GitHub clarified in a closed pull request, it’s not actually allowed on Github to have a license that blocks the ability to do forks and modify the programs yourself, I never knew this but it says it on the page he linked.

basically it seems if you post a project as public on Github, you implicitly grant a license to fork and use the code regardless of what it’s terms say since you need to follow those terms for the Github platform usage. The section 6 I’m not sure about though, cause the terminology confuses me, I can’t tell if it means that it can be supercedes or that it supercedes a private license

it seems his intent isn’t to dissuade people contributing, he’s just been burned a few times with GPL violations so he’s changing the terms to prevent that

I might be able to read this on light mode but, on dark mode + that layout it’s hard

not as bad as the 1 word speed reader but still it’s almost impossible to focus on. I’m impressed to uare able to

where does it say it’s mandatory? It’s only stating things that they would have done regardless, I see nowhere where it says ambassadors are required to. The only requirement I saw was that they need to state what events they will be present at, and that’s only so they can distribute the items(primarily stickers) that they supplied the ambassadors and to actually use the program.

It seems like your typical enthusiast volunteer program if you ask me.

edit: rereading it they also reiterate that fact

Thanks for sharing your concern. We definitely don’t want anyone to go out of their way to represent us. There are individuals who are already chatting with other event attendees, sharing their own experience with Framework Laptops and answering questions at various events without any affiliation to us, and we just want to get in touch with them. I guess “showcase” was the wrong word here. We are looking for ambassadors who would show what a Framework Laptop looks like to others who are interested. We are definitely not looking for a laptop salesperson. Hope this makes sense.

please reach out to your ambassadors on social media

That != “ambassadors are required to reply”

I expect it’s layout is much like twitchcon, where you could reach out to your content creators for questions and meetups, but there is no obligation to respond.

In the case of this, these people already were attending regardless, so it’s not like they wouldn’t want to mix and mingle via social media as is.

That’s on you for having your phone at the romantic dinner, my mom’s the same way, like put the phone away, work isn’t going to collapse if you don’t have your phone for an hour

You may not have read that right. I don’t think they are saying that it’s their behavior that is the reason that they won’t enter, it’s the fact that you are using a partner that makes digital copies and photographs patrons. It’s a huge invasion of privacy. It’s one thing for security cameras, it’s a whole different level to also be copying ID’s AND then also sharing that information to parties outside the establishment.

fully agree, I barely go to bars in the first place, I’m the quiet guy that orders and just hangs out and have a good time, but like I would never enter an establishment where a copy of my ID is required to enter, and that’s ignoring the fact that it’s doing photography at the same time. Would be an instant next bar please.

lol maybe it’s different in the UK but, no way in hell would this help your relationship with your kid in the states. this would be a surefire way to make your kid never trust you with anything. Animals deserve privacy, and that includes humans regardless of age. If you can’t grant them that basic need then you failed at a parent.

Lesson learned, they regularly do this if you have a website that one of their crawlers hit as active. If you really care about it check in about a year later, chances are if you havent inquired within a year they’ll release the domain and you can pay normal sale price for it

I never understood this, if you read the msg, why not just respond to the msg, this isn’t the first time I’ve heard this either, like “I read your text but forgot to reply”… ok so why not just reply to the text when you read it that way you can’t forget to later lmao

It saves us so much hassle for both parties in the long run

honestly I don’t think there is a better way, like others have said you can use a trash program or you can chmod the git directory before deleting but, I would recommend against the comments saying alias the command, that can lead to even bigger problems if you typo thr alias or mess up in the script. rf can’t break anything unless you say the wrong directory which would be the same with aliases anyway,

My recommendation out of them all would be using a trash program to move it to the trash that way if you do screw up the location you have a way to restore it otherwise you could make a script to list the files affected using ls and then prompt a yes/no prompt using read before doing the rm script, but that’s something you definitely want to test in a sandbox or user restricted environment if you’re not used to scripting in case something breaks

it’s not recommended, it causes massive issues with the built in programs and you will spend ore time fighting your system then just going with a native, I just tried this a few months back

Adding on to this that if they do decide not to go Windows do not use Debian.

Don’t get me wrong it’s hella stable if you’re using stuff from like five six years ago, but if you’re trying to do anything remotely new or gaming related I would probably pass and try for one of the ones that are less stable. This is coming from someone who just made this mistake, steam will install but proton will not because the dependencies that proton relies on don’t exist in any of debian’s default sources, of course the launcher won’t actually tell you this unless you try to launch it from command line. On top of this if you’re planning on using games that originated on a windows partition, proton isn’t able to use those partitions unless you force yourself the owner by using uid and gid in fstab for the partitions, but it won’t tell you that either it will just fail to launch.

I’m at the point where I think I’m just going to Nuke my Debian install and just go with another system because man has it fought me every step of the way in this process

Roblox in particular has been super hostile to the Linux community, they’ve two or three times now intentionally changed their application to make it so it won’t run under wine. If Roblox is something that is a hard requirement for him, I would highly recommend against any of the non-windows derivatives. The lead development team on Roblox seems to have the ideology that anything that isn’t Windows is a hacker platform and therefore they attempt to remove access from those platforms wherever possible. I don’t personally agree with it but, it is what it is.

I also wish people would stop blindly recommending Unix platforms as a drop-in replacement for gaming on Windows. I have yet to see anyone who has been able to just install any of the flavors and have it “just work”. I fully agree that we are ages better in terms of compatibility than it was even 5 years ago, but at 100% should be going into it as a “you will have issues prepare to have to troubleshoot” and if this was his first time using anything not windows, I would have hard recommended against nuking the windows install, at the very least shrink the C partition on Windows which can be done via GParted, which thankfully is already pre-installed on the Linux Mint installation media.

It’s disappointing that he is looking to go back, but I can fully understand his frustration, as someone who’s recently retaking the plunge after 6 or 7 years of being on windows again, I find myself getting aggravated at times trying to make hack scripts to make things work as well.

That being said, if he is wanting to go back you shouldn’t force using it, that’s only going to remove the possibility of him switching back in the future(like when MS makes w10 a subscription model either end of this year or the year after which will force w11)