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  • True I did not count cost of electricity, because it’s extremely hard to guess. Some places are .04$/kwh, some are .45/kwh, some are free. What if you had free charging at work? Or apartment, or had solar, it could be completely free. But let’s say you did pay for electricity, average of .12$/kwh, 4mi/kwh, around 12,000$ so half. You spend twice as much for a far slower, much smaller car that needs maintenance 2-4 times a year, and need to waste 15 minutes every week at a gas station (13 hours per year!).

    And before I get a “it only takes 3 minutes to fill” bullshit, your not considering the detour time, pull in time, parking time, credit card time, Skip their ads/loyalty shit time, wait for receipt, time to make your turn out of the lot. Go ahead and time it, I’m sure you’ll be surprised how much of your life is being wasted while breathing those fumes from gas/exhaust.

    Of course there’s going to be a market for ev battery repair, and they’ll work on Teslas the most/exclusively not because they’re bad, but because they’re the only significant ev so far. They’ve sold millions, when the next highest has 200k. Shit can break on anything at any time from any manufacturer.

    All Toyotas for years have had 3yr/36,000mi, 5yr/60,000mi powertrain warranty.

    Nimh is junk, it is guaranteed to die due to age. It cycles really well but the chemistry inside literally dries out and stops working, 8-10 years. That’s probably where a lot of the FUD about lithium batteries come from, lithium batteries degrade slowly. You can check this old blog that gives stats for 10 year higher mileage Teslas, looking at 18% to the high end but usually 8-12%. And those are the early batteries where Tesla was probably cutting as much cost as possible, today’s batteries are a bit better.

    And Toyota absolutely does put junk into their cars, they put weak engines, weak hybrid motors, bottom tier infotainment, minimum legal warranty. They’ve been riding their 1980-2000 reliability reputation hard. Not saying they’re unreliable, but that reputation is the only thing that sells their cars.

    Range does decrease in winter for evs, but it does for gasoline cars too, they don’t show the mpg difference on the window sticker either. Tesla has really good thermal management so it generally Loses about 15%, not your 40% claim



  • Let’s just do some checking here to counter your argument

    All evs sold in America have 8year/100,000mi warranty on battery, also these are ev top of the line batteries, not the junk that goes into most toys that burn out in a few years, these are good for 300,000mi+ before the 80% capacity, which is not at all a cause for replacement

    But for your cost of ownership argument, if you drove a Prius for 400,000mi as claimed, at a likely/optimistic mpg of 50mpg, that’s 8,000 gallons of fuel, which over the last decade has probably averaged at least close to 3$/g, depending of course. That’s 24,000$. Just in fuel. Now you have say 40$ oil changes every 6,000 miles, that’s another 2,600$, you did a nicad battery replacement because Toyota was totally fine putting that junk in there, another 1,500$

    Totalled up to 28,100$. But that potential , not guarantee, 10,000$ battery replacement is too expensive. Literally could have bought an ev for the price of the running costs for an ice






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    Unsure if I fully agree. On one side, yeah cows are exploited. But they get a safe life, with medicine and treatment for illness and physical issues (hooves). Access to food without concern of predators, safe place to sleep and give birth.

    Cows are one of the most successful animals in the world because they’re a resource for humans. They are not allowed to go extinct.

    I’d say humans are by far the best thing that happened to any domesticated animal.