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  • This is a PR move, don’t fall for it.

    Quotes from the man himself, on how much he actually supports marriage equality and LGBTQ peolle:

    “I cannot hide my concern for the family, which is threatened, perhaps as never before, from within and without. Fundamental relationships are being called into question, as is the very basis of marriage and the family. I can only reiterate the importance and, above all, the richness and the beauty of family life.”

    “What is at stake here is the identity and survival of the family: father, mother, and children. At stake are the lives of so many children who will be discriminated against in advance, depriving them of the human maturation that God wanted to be given with a father and a mother.”

    “[Marriage equality] is not a political struggle; it is the destructive attempt toward God’s plan.”

    “”[The push for marriage equality is] the envy of the Devil, by which sin entered the world, which cunningly seeks to destroy the image of God.”

    Don’t fall for their lies.


  • This is a PR move, don’t fall for it.

    Quotes from the man himself, on how much he actually supports marriage equality and LGBTQ peolle:

    “I cannot hide my concern for the family, which is threatened, perhaps as never before, from within and without. Fundamental relationships are being called into question, as is the very basis of marriage and the family. I can only reiterate the importance and, above all, the richness and the beauty of family life.”

    “What is at stake here is the identity and survival of the family: father, mother, and children. At stake are the lives of so many children who will be discriminated against in advance, depriving them of the human maturation that God wanted to be given with a father and a mother.”

    “[Marriage equality] is not a political struggle; it is the destructive attempt toward God’s plan.”

    “”[The push for marriage equality is] the envy of the Devil, by which sin entered the world, which cunningly seeks to destroy the image of God.”

    Don’t fall for their lies.




  • Have you ever had a good boss?

    Yes.

    How is it that much different from now?

    My corrent boss can’t beat me with a rod as long as I don’t die in a few days.

    They are your master and you are their slave, until you choose to end employment or they set you free, which that’s the only difference in the current vs “traditional” slavery.

    A pretty damn big difference.

    Most of the time, it’ll be better for the “slave” to be true and loyal to their master.

    Having said that, the laws of a nation are what they are and those are what the state should follow, and those ought to be enforced for all its citizens without preference to any particular group.

    So you’d be against the slaves rising up against their masters?

    The morality that the Bible teaches is simply the most correct for all of human history.

    Glad you’re at least pro-choice.

    Hmm, I wonder…


  • “Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.”

    Ephesians 6:5-8

    “Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to curry their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.”

    Colossians 3:22-24

    “Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything, to try to please them, not to talk back to them”

    Titus 2:9-10

    “Slaves, be subject to your masters with all reverence, not only to those who are good and equitable but also to those who are perverse.”

    Peter 2:18

    Yeah, we should definitely get our morals from a book that supports slavery.







  • I’ve called the context the religion was formed in absurd (not a judgement because modern culture is absurd), and said the Church of Satan has effectively called them pussies (it has), but have not called the TST or it’s adherent’s stupid.

    It’s all pretty stupid IMO, aside from the way they can mount legal challenges.

    I was just surprised you said TST was a pretend religion cause the only way they’re effective in challenging laws is being a real religion, like that’s a harsh way to undermine them.

    Undermine them? What?

    Okay. I’ll accept that I’m undermining them if you show me 1 (one) court case I have lost for the TST by saying they are not a real religion. I’ll wait.

    The made up definition to amend that statement having no basis in real law is irrelevant.

    The definition was from an earlier comment where I explained it. Not my problem you didn’t pay attention.

    You can’t defend TST and believe they’re pretending

    I can, and will.

    But okay. Let’s say you’re correct. Let’s say you can only challenge laws and institutions like these by sincerely help religious beliefs.

    Show me the test to determine if a belief is sincerely held.

    It doesn’t matter if your belief is sincerely held or not, the courts have to treat religions equally, which is what the TST is here for.



  • Well, it doesn’t really matter since my definition of religion is not what the laws use.

    So when you say it’s a “pretend religion” you’re basically saying it’s adherents aren’t really religious.

    I say it’s a pretend religion because they’re not trying to manipulate their members for power over them and profit, and/or they’re not trying to get them to believe in the supernatural.

    This is clearly different from the law’s misunderstanding of what a religion is, as pointed out by yourself:

    "Courts actually do care about whether someone truly believes in a religion, because someone’s supposed religious beliefs are often appealed for why someone is a “good person,…”

    If you were filing a lawsuit like the one in the article and you professed it was a “pretend religion” your case would be thrown out,

    Fortunately for the lawsuit, it wouldn’t because the definition of religion the court uses and mine if different.


  • Well, they’re not trying to manipulate their members for power over them and profit, and/or they’re not trying to get them to believe in the supernatural, so they’re clearly not a real religion.

    I suspect a lot of TST members sincerely believe in the tenants

    Good, they are very good tenants to live by, I salute them. I try to do so myself.

    To call it pretend like you have is way harsher than anything I’ve said about it, you’re basically saying it’s all a ruse and the adherents are all just knowingly faking it for show,

    Why would it be harsh? That’s something you inferred, not something I said.

    I personally don’t think pretending to be a religion is a bad thing, it’s a necessary thing. You seem to be projecting a lot of you own opinions onto what I actually said.

    which would mean they couldn’t legitimately challenge laws as a religion.

    How so? What qualifications do you have to decide which religions are allowed to be recognized under law?