Don’t do this. Not only is your response actually antisemitic, but relating Israeli and Zionist policy to Judaism is exactly what Netanyahu is doing in order to be able to play the anti semitism card. If you are against Israel’s actions, fight to make it clear that it is not the same as Judaism and support the Jewish people that speak out against Zionism and the Israeli government.

After later being a soldier for Israel and a “freelance strategy consultant” who co-produced a propaganda podcast with a member of the IOF’s social media team, Keller-Lynn later was published by the Wall Street Journal, covering Israel. Then, she obtained an intelligence dossier from Israel—and published damaging information about Israel’s avowed enemy the week the ICJ ordered it to pull back.

A few days later, Channel 4 in Britain got the dossier and said it contained “no evidence” to support Israel’s “explosive new claim” that “around 190 Hamas and Islamic Jihad terrorist operatives” had worked as UNRWA employees and “more than 10 staffers took part in the events of 7th of October.” But by then the damage was done: UNRWA had lost hundreds of millions of funding. There is no telling when, or if, it will come back.

How was anything reported by Keller-Lynn ever “objective” news journalism?

The dossier mentioned in the WSJ article (an article authored by a known Israeli propagandist, for the record) did not contain any evidence supporting the claim that was made

https://lithub.com/journalism-as-a-front-of-war-on-american-media-and-the-ideology-of-the-status-quo/

I also advice you to read this, and consider the impact such propaganda has on real people. Real human beings. https://x.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1754881912550646078

Do you really want to be on that side of history? Do you want to look back on your life when you are on your deathbed and realize you supported the slaughter of tens- to hundreds of thousands of human beings just like you and me, based on lies and deception? And to have further spread and supported these lies?

The main activities of UN Watch

Monitor UN activities, resolutions, or official statements that are construed to be critical of Israel.[4]

Lobby for the removal of UN personnel who are considered critical of Israel[5]

Forming coalitions to leverage influence at the UN. This also entails assisting the interests of other groups to later count on their support.[6]

Lobby for the inclusion of AJC approved personnel; this is a standard operating procedure by the American Jewish Committee[7]

From https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/UN_Watch

UN Watch is very much still Israeli propaganda, or rather a lobbying organisation

I stand corrected.

Had a look at their articles, it’s still shameless pro-Israel propaganda though.

And water is wet.

Anyone believing any story coming from the Israeli media is stupidly naive. They have been using their propaganda and desinformation for decades to influence foreign populations and governments, especially their allies, into supporting them. It’s vile.

PMW believes that the key to the future is peace education. Our research, however, shows that Palestinian children have not been given that key. More than three decades since the signing of the Oslo Accords, the Palestinian Authority is still actively poisoning the minds of its children with hate.

Palestinian Media Watch (PMW) is a non-profit Israeli research institute

You can come back to me when you have a source that not blatantly Israeli propaganda

Yes, they keep Palestinians alive, thereby slowing down Israels mission to kill them all and therefore prolonging the conflict.

It’s not the first time, and it has likely caused deaths before due to delayed care: https://www.wired.com/story/ransomware-hospital-death-germany/

That’s not what I am denying, read my comment again. What I am saying is that the warnings are just for show, because if they follow the warnings and flee, the IDF kills them while they are on the run

Not when reasonable effort to warn civilians is: we’re going to bomb you, and if you run we’ll bomb you too.

The discussion was literally about sanctions. Seems like a reasonable step compared to the “war” you immediately jump to, no?

Ah yes, because telling Netanyahu “please don’t bomb children, that is not really nice” has worked out splendidly so far. Diplomacy without being able to put pressure on is nothing more than kindly asking.

Y’know what is the primary method to apply pressure in diplomacy? Sanctions.

Annoying huh, international law against ethnic cleansing. You’re not even allowed to give civilians the choice between being forcibly removed or slaughtered. It’s antisemitic I tell you, what are the poor Israelis to do?

You know they don’t have to invade Rafah, right? It’s not like ethnic cleansing is Israel’s only choice.

You’re not burying people if you don’t consider them people taps head

They were keeping Palestinians alive in there, by Israeli standards that is antisemitic already.

Admittedly, Israel’s current plan for Gaza after the war is a bit hazy at best (as in, they still don’t appear to have one). However, early on, Israel claimed that “We shall demolish it and it will never be built again.” and that they “take no responsibility for life on the Gaza strip after the war” (source: https://www.thenationalnews.com/mena/palestine-israel/2023/10/20/israel-to-take-no-responsibility-for-life-on-gaza-strip-after-war-says-defence-minster/?outputType=amp).

I sure hope they have changed their mind and will have an actual plan to help the Gazan people, but I am nowhere near as optimistic as you. I do not consider Israel an “absolute jewel” with democratic ideals. Israel is just as much a “shithole theocracy” as the countries surrounding it. The difference is that they have the money for an extensive (and I mean extensive) propaganda and lobbying machine. The amount of policies, organisations and projects of Israel to give it a positive name in the Western world is absolutely insane, and the fact that so many exist in the first place tells you enough about the true intentions of the country. A true democracy would not need to control public opinion nearly as much.

There’s still a long way from the current 20-something thousand death to 2 million. Literally 100 times as many. That’s even ignoring the Palestinians in the West Bank. I sure as hell hope that Israel stops or is stopped long before they get to those numbers. Killing all Palestinians is literal holocaust levels of murder.

If genociding all Palestinians is the only way to “win” for the IDF, then I hope with all my heart that the IDF loses big time, and I sure as hell would assume any normal thinking human being agrees with me, as there is no way you can consider yourself moral person and at the same time be okay with the slaughtering of 2 million people.

The thing is Israel has no intention to help the people of Gaza. They have literally said so. So if they will not help the people of Gaza, they will either do exactly what you say is not an option: leave Gaza to their own fate, or they will take the land without helping the people of Gaza, which amounts to ethnic cleansing.

To be in the right (and I say this lightly, as taking Gaza would definitely be nothing more than occupying a country through an invasion), Israel needs to either claim Gaza and make the Gazan people full citizens of Israel, including all the rights that come with that (which is, if other parts of Israel and the occupied areas of the West Bank are anything to go by, is not going to happen), or they need to leave Gaza alone, including the removal of any blockade or occupation, and give Gaza a realistic chance at being it’s own state.

I’m only saying what the result will be of Israel’s current strategy. Long term they are only creating more potential enemies. They may defeat Hamas, but they’re just creating the foundation for the next generation terror group, with record numbers of people willing to join their ranks. Strategically, it’s the worst possible approach for a stable and secure future for Israel - unless the goal is to annihilate anyone that has motive to hate Israel, which snowballs very quickly into every Palestinian as the more you murder, the more family members are left behind that resent Israel.

Do you want a real chance of peace in Israel? Truely work on a better and safer future for the Israeli people and create an undisputed Zionist state? Do whatever you can to create a livable situation for Palestinians, in which they don’t get treated like second rank citizens. Where they are free to work and travel as they desire. Where they can live like human beings like you and me, rather than being treated as prisoners, animals or worse. Where they have no need to feel like they must fight for their survival.

But Netanyahu doesn’t care, all he cares about is that the focus is off of him, his attempt at dictatorship and whatever lawsuits he’s trying to dodge. By the time the effects of his current policy come through, he’ll be dead of old age anyway.

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