It’s not better, it’s the same fucking thing.

They learned two things: identity politics and weigh the scale down as hard as possible.

They obsessed over identity, to their long term detriment as some of the minority identities they fawned over are shifting their support towards trump.

Don’t you have homework to do in your parents basement?

That’s not how voting works, but given I’m probably arguing with a child I’m not surprised you don’t understand how voting works.

Lol, you’re not even American and you’re arguing about this? Do you even know how the electoral college works? Do you know how any of our government structure works?!

If you took every single third party vote across the country and gave all of them to Harris in just the swing states (some democracy we’ve got…) trump still would have won, in a landslide no less. And still won the senate, and it looks like the house is still projected to go Republican as well.

I’m a Vermonter. Vermont was going in a landslide to Harris (president), sanders (senate), and Scott (governor) no matter who I voted for on any of those lines. I voted third party in all three of those races (I once worked for the sanders campaign in 2015 but I’m so tired of his milquetoast bullshit as of late) and then in other local races it was a split ticket. For example, Vermonts Republican running for state treasurer wants to divest state pensions from blackrock. Meanwhile, the democrat incumbent just gave typical mealymouthed democrat party platitudes that were completely meaningless. The Republican in that race got my vote because they earned it.

The entitlement of libs is unreal.

I can’t wait for trump to drop dead of natural causes only so I don’t have to hear his voice ever again

Nice circular logic there bud. You late for after school debate class? Is mom checking your homework?

I voted third party thank you very much. Trump voters voted for trump. Harris voters voted for Harris. Third party voters voted for third parties. The democrats ran an awful candidate and then have the audacity to whine bitch moan and scream about how it’s voters fault that they ran a shit ass candidate.

2016 all over again. Trump would of won 2020 too if covid never happened. The democrats are a decaying corpse of a political party and need to be replaced.

Doing the same thing over and over, failing, and expecting it to somehow work if you just do it harder next time is fucking madness.

DECADES OF NEOLIBERALISM CREATED THE MATERIAL CONDITIONS FOR FASCISM TO TAKE ROOT.

I voted third party. What are the democrats doing to fight fascism other than… courting fascists themselves?

Can’t kill already dead people. They’re both killers, it’s hard to be worse than biden/Harris are currently supporting.

Normally I’d agree with you because you’re not wrong, but who at this point doesn’t know who trump or Harris are? And where can I find that rock they are hiding under so I can get some quiet time?

They’ve had four years to deal with the fascism problem and so far they’ve done Jack shit.

With that attitude you can enjoy losing 2028 as well. The fucking entitlement.

I bet your solution is to just vote harder for the same fucking assholes who are fucking us all over! That will show them!

I can’t in good consciousness vote for genociders, so I voted third party, my only anti genocide option.

CRY ABOUT IT.

The popular vote that trump won in addition to the electoral college? That popular vote? Democrats (the party apparatus) need to come to term with themselves and look in the mirror for answers as to why there’s a second trump term on the horizon.

Just commenting to say I love your name lmfaooo

Obama also competed against a deep field of qualified candidates in 2008. He went into the general with momentum of a popular mandate and then won in a landslide.

He would of done nearly as good if he was a white man.

On the flip side, when the republicans lost with Romney in 2012 they did a whole lot of soul searching (rather than blaming the electorate and moving closer to the center to court mythical ‘moderates’ which is the ongoing failed strategy of the democrats), and in 2016 they had an extremely competitive primary where trump came out on top with a mandate as popular with the base as Obama in 2008.

They lost the general because they refused to hold a legitimate primary. This wouldn’t of happened. They haven’t run a real primary since 2008 and look at how hard Obama won in a landslide after competing in a deep field of qualified and competent candidates.