There are many laws that go entirely against the constitution of a country. You can start by looking at DMCA laws that violate a bunch of rights in MANY countries. Legally gray is falling short, those are illegal, and still get enforced because $$$

And even sadder is that users choose to still use those companies.

At the end of the day, we all have a choice. This happens to those that allow it. We try to stay safe from burglars, traffic accidents, illness, etc., but choose to still use these companies. That’s a choice, and there are ways to improve our lives, like removing them from our lives.

That could very well be the case. However, I would have to be seriously gullible to believe anything those closed companies promote an “independent” party paid by them found, moreso if the findings only serve to push their proven lies forward for "public perception’.

In this case it’s and actual independent party auditing open source code, that makes much more sense.

Just because dollars exchange hands doesn’t mean the data provided is invalid.

You are absolutely correct. What means the provided data is invalid is the fact that these companies are regularly found lying about how they handle our " privacy" or how secure they are. Just search for “Apple lied” and see all the instances and how they try to bury it all via PR bullshit.

I believe that, out of Amazon, Google, Meta, Microsoft and Apple, Apple is the lesser evil, but that means shit when they all do the same, just in different ways and at varying degrees.

Ah, here it is BMW drivers, most have Apple stickers on their cars, and they are all douchebags.

Where is this information from an independent party (not from Crapple)?

Independent firms hired by them? Right. I don’t think “independent” means what they think it means.

Same as mine. But mine also gets confused regularly, and it gets worse with every new version (age) 🤣🤣

So, a fork of LTT? Got it!

That’s easy, move over to Windows or Mac and enjoy. I’ll stay in my dumb as Linux distros, thank you.

I have heard of Darwin, and went back to read up on it to refresh my memory. While it is considered open source, it is also useless unless it is used for Apple’s closed source operating systems, as can be appreciated in this explanation:

In the beginning, Apple used to make Darwin available as a separate OS, including compiled binaries, installers, ISOs, etc. that you could install on Apple hardware. However, for many years now, Apple only provides a source code dump, every time a new release of macOS comes out. It isn’t even possible to compile this source code, because it depends on Apple’s internal build tools and build pipeline. There have been some projects trying to patch Darwin to compile it with publicly available tools, but those projects have all died from lack of interest.

Open Source should be compilable and able to be used, at least that’s my perspective, and I just may be wrong.

Here’s the article this came from on StackExchange:

https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/401832/why-is-macos-often-referred-to-as-darwin

Who says I am a man? Just kidding, I am. I do hate Apple, Google, Microsoft, Meta and every other company out there that operate business on a predatory model. Am I damaged? Absolutely, at so many levels it’s hard to count them. But that makes me just human, as you will find there is not 1 single human out there that is not damaged at some or other. On the brighter side, I am doing what I can to heal.

Yup, that’s why I asked. I still hate Crapple and everything they stand for, but this is good data to start doing some in-depth research. Thanks.

What that Apple does is Open Source? This is the first time I’ve read this.

Hands down the best screen shot app in Linux, in my opinion.

I cannot confirm nor deny.

Lol. Lol. Lol.

They play mostly on their Linux PCs, but they like to play Horizon on the Playstation, that and Sack Boy.

At the end of the day, Sony is just one more corp trying to get away with mining us all.

No idea, I haven’t used anything form that company in about 7 years.

I don’t say I trust him, don’t even know him. Having said that, his videos are mostly well evidenced, and it is still super fun to see him blasting these companies.

Awesome. No idea what that means, but AWESOME!