“Overwhelming”, that’s the word I was looking for to define KDE. Thank you.

I’m really looking forward to the release version of Cosmic. Used to be a fan of Gnome-based Cosmic on PopOS, but Pop just kept on “popping” so I moved to Fedora Workstation. I have never looked back.

Gnome, be it PC or Laptop. It just remains out of my way with it’s minimalism. Tried KDE for a while, and I seriously can’t stand it, personally.

https://media.tenor.com/dEbafQKQ8Y4AAAAM/what-the-actual-fuck-is-wrong-with-you-wtf.gif

Wao, I was not aware of that new enshitification clause. I’ve been off of anything related to Meta for over 8 years. The more I hear about what these ech giants keep pushing, the happier I am that I got out so long ago

I apologize. I didn’t see that my Obtainium was actually pulling from the fdroid repo. I was able to add it to Obtainium from the Divest repo: https://divestos.org/fdroid/official/us.spotco.fennec_dos_21320020.apk

But I really doubt that it will trigger updates, since it’s tied to the current version apk.

I update my browsers and K9 via FFupdater, that’s where my confusion came from. And I thank you for calling me our, I just removed Mull from my Obtainium.

Or you can install directly from Divest via FFupdater, or from their github (I use Obtainium for that).

You’re correct, the older I get, the less I care about things outside my circle, but the fact remains, that study you are pushing does not segregate the age range. They talk about the broader 16-65 years old, and you reference the segregation based on your personal experience teaching those age ranges you point out.

Now, out of curiosity, how is that different from what I’m doing?

You may be right, someone here is arguing for the sake of it.

You have a great day too, buddy.

Oh, I know. The reason for switching Sims is because they do something I don’t like, not for anonymity or even privacy. But it’s good that you mention it here.

I strongly suggest you look into jmp.chat. That’s what I’ve been using exclusively for the last 3 months , no problem. When I’m out, I just carry a prepaid 5G mobile modem with me, and have yet to miss a single call or sms (as far as I know). I haven’t missed being attached to a mobile provider in the least. And since my mobile modem is unlocked and prepaid, I can just throw away the Sim if I don’t want to use them anymore and use some other provider. Nevermind the huge savings since I moved to this flow.

I would argue that they happen way more on Windows. I’ve never had any of that happen to me on Linux (mostly a Fedora user) but plenty of times on Windows from 7 to 11.

I did read the study before responding. You are talking about the abilities for computer use for age ranges. The study talks about the range between 16 and 65 years old, yet does not segregate into shorter age ranges, it generalizes in that broad range. However, you do mention smaller age ranges, and I countered that, in my experience, your assessment is inaccurate.

I said we live in different realities because:

1. You never mentioned a specific country
2. My experience iscludes a very broad group of countries (albeit not the 100+ the OECD covers)

I’ll go even further. My kids (9 and 11 years old) are better trained to use anything thrown at them regardless of UX, because I take the time to take them through logic and common sense exercises with different systems regularly, which is way more than can be said about the upcoming generation. Kids today are being taught to “do this always” for any step instead of pushing them to figure out how to work out stuff. This creates a train of thought that’s detrimental to them because their brains will get use to “this is how it’s done”, effectively blocking the “and what happens if I do this instead?”. Does that make sense?

However, people from my generation, who started becoming adults when computers (regardless of OS or brand/manufacturer) were just becoming mainstream in households and workplaces, we had to adapt to how things worked as they evolved with little to no help. This is what allowed us to still be able to keep up with anything that shows up new, all the evolution of software and hardware over the years, and the new technologies.

I am all too aware that there are some seriously skilled and smart younger individuals out there. These are curious and risk-taking people that are always hungry for knowledge. I know quite a few people like this, but this, unfortunately, is not the norm, again in my experience. Similarly, there’s a bunch of people from my generation that just learned the basics to be able to go about their day, and never learned how to change a freaking DNS address in their device.

Having said that, my response to your original comment remains, based on my first hand experience on how skills across age ranges differ in a generalized context over many different countries and cultures.

What, in 2024, makes you think anyone’s environment is relegated to any one country? But if you must know, it’s a large part of the US, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Argentina, Bolivia, Pakistan, Egypt, Mozambique, and about 15 other countries. There are some very technically skilled folks between 25 - 35 years old, but the percentage of that group pales in comparison.

This is great news.

We must live in entirely different realities then. I’m 50, and I find myself being the goto guy for anything tech for anyone between 15 and 40 in my environment. It just so happens that most tech savvy people in my environment are between 45 and 65 years old.

You’re fucked.

Are you serious? “Assuming” is the streamline? DAMN!

My boss told me to get a laptop and I’d be reimbursed, so I got a System76 with Fedora. “How are you going to use (company proprietary software that only works on Windows)?” I told him I could run it on wine (and I have). But he ended up assigning me a Windows 365 cloud, so now I have a very nice laptop that just works, and I only fire up the cloud crap if I really need to.

Suffice it to say that I’m the only upper management member that barely interacts with the IT department, I don’t need to 🤣🤣

I gives me a sense of happiness when I hear about whole families using Linux only. So awesome.

And incredibly stupid as well.