Safari is often treated harshly, especially by developers working on websites. I also can’t recall if anyone ever said or wrote that he likes it as a user.

I personally am using it on all my devices and I enjoy it simplicity. I dislike the fact that there are very few good extensions for it, but I’m not sure if that’s a problem from developers or from Apple.

So, my question today is: what do you like or hate about Safari, that either made you use it or uninstall?

  • HollandJim@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3·
    1 year ago

    Safari is one of the browser platforms we develop for, and honestly it doesn’t deserve the hate. Jen Simmons is on fire with guiding Webkit and I can usually debug easier on Safari and Chrome than Firefox.

    Chromium, IMHO as a web dev since 1996, is more the New Explorer than Safari, especially where typography is concerned.

  • macintosh@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3·
    1 year ago

    I like it, but I’m mad they backed out of the redesign a few years ago, and I hate that it doesn’t support true ad blockers. The modern web is near unusable with the current ad count.

    • prwnr@programming.devOPEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      im using AdGuard and didn’t notice any issues with ads popping out. 99% of time it works for me

      • macintosh@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        It’s also nice to zap annoying parts of pages like proton mail begging for money and Twitter’s more annoying buttons. However, I still find adguard to work worse than ublock.

  • HangingFruit@czech-lemmy.euEnglish
    3·
    1 year ago

    I like the minimalistic UI. I like the integration. I love the tab groups and as far as I know, the privacy is also good.

  • JackSkellington@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    1 year ago

    I love the UI however there are several dealbreakers:

    • cannot add other search engines besides the default ones (I use none of them)

    • extensions framework is terrible, almost non existent ecosystem; they frequently stop working a after new safari changes

    • only bearable with a good system wide ad blocker like AdGuard, which costs money

    If these issues would be addressed, it would be perfect browser for me

  • Simplelifelfk@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    1 year ago

    For 99% percent of my stuff for personal and work (I’m an IT guy), it just works. For the other 1%, I use Firefox.

  • jxrdsn@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    1 year ago

    I like Safari from an ease of use and convenience perspective. Also love the iCloud private relay use as I found it largely unnecessary to use a VPN now. My only downsides are no native support for custom search engines and the way they handle extensions. It sucks developers are forced to pay yearly to host their apps and such and I think that’s why there aren’t as many great options as there are on Firefox.

  • abhibeckert@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    1 year ago

    I hate that it’s buggy. For example I have to use my iPad to create or edit bookmarks - updating bookmarks just doesn’t work, at all, on my Mac, and it’s been like that for about a year.

    As for what I love… mostly that it syncs everything, even tabs, between my desktop/laptop/tablet/phone. No other browser does a good job of that, and it’s a must have feature for me.

    Arc was even better at syncing, and also less buggy… but they changed how syncing works. It’s rubbish now.

  • basskitten@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    I love it. Clean, minimal, gets out of the way, does what I want. With the iCloud keychain password management, 2FA management, auto-fill-then-delete codes from message/email (iOS 17/macOS Sonoma), it’s a real time-saver.

    If you’re on a laptop for any amount of time during the day the battery life is unbeatable.

    • prwnr@programming.devOPEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      I only recently heard about Orion. Is is that good? How the Mac app compares to Arc if you know? cause Arc is the other trending browser on MacOS that I heard and tried.

  • Weaponized Stupidity@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    I use it on all my Apple devices, and honestly, would use it even on my Windows work laptop if I could.

    I love that it’s minimal, is very energy efficient and protects my privacy with Private Relay. Also fills up passwords from Keychain in an instant and isn’t Chrome like 90% of web browsers today.

  • claycle@lemm.eeEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    I use Safari as my primary and almost exclusive browser (falling back to Firefox once in a blue moon). I wouldn’t say I love or hate it - it’s JUST a browser after all - but there are a couple of things that come to mind:

    1. I “hate” that some web developers just develop for Chrome and call it a day, though I usually have the ability to say “Well, fuck you, too.” and not patronize those sites. Apart from that, Safari works and works well (for me) on all the sites I care about.
    2. I “love” that Safari integrates effortlessly across all my Apple devices - and this is a powerful motivator to stay in Safari’s garden. I like bookmark and secure password sharing. I like handoff. I like using “advanced” integrated features like Hide My Email (if I wasn’t using HME, I’d be using Firefox or DDG’s counterpart, but HME is “right there” and “works well”) and VPN (ditto).

    (On my Windows 11 box, which I touch with ever-decreasing frequency, I use Firefox exclusively, and if Safari didn’t exist, that’s what I would use on my Mac.)