“This is a disappointment for the millions of Eurovision fans in the Netherlands and other European countries”

Netherlands: Meh. Best weather we’ve had in months. Let’s have a BBQ instead.

Nope - US manufacturers are NOT pulling the same shit. Kia/Hyundai are the only brand in the US without immobilizers because they thought they could skimp there instead of a posher interior or more electro-gadgets. Only in the US because the law at that time didn’t require it, but other brands who also sell worldwide (where it is absolutely required) didn’t consider this an option. Kia/Hyundai clearly did. It was a stupid, stupid call and it should impact their reputation. If they skimp on something as elemental as security, where else have they skimped…?

Location is irrelevant … That was choice by Hyundai/Kia, to cheap out and remove the immobilizers.

Do you mean the Toyota with the airbag issues in the 90s, or their EV last year where the wheels would FALL OFF while driving? Toyota is a shell of what made it great, and the whole greenwashing of their hybrids (eg, their self-charging EVs bullshit) should make you think of other choices.

You forgot one:

Guy goes to his Lada dealer and says “I want a gas cap for my Lada”. Dealer replies “…that seems like a fair trade.”

Well, I’m not ready to have my world reset, thankyouverymuch.

I’ve been around long enough to know that this ebbs and flows, and to know WHO put these billionaires in power. If you vote Republican, you vote for lies, for double-dealing, and the throwing away of the rule of law. They’ve been enabling this since Reagan, and people buy into it because Fox and other Republican-aligned Anger Engines will commiserate with you and point fingers are who they think is to blame…which is anyone other than Republicans.

We’ve always had the power to stop them, but they keep us disorganized and fighting each other while they skin the cream off the top. Anarchy isn’t an answer - it’s a big nothing burger; no solutions, only more anger.

What fucking scares them? Organizing. Us getting together and not buying their shill. Getting together and unionizing for better wages and work (hi Norway!). Getting together and taking those politicians and anger engines off their stage. Beware any politician or celebrity who acts like one of you but then tries get you to vote against your own best interests. These fuckers need to fear us, and nothing works better than turning those channels off, ignoring their socials and voting those politicians out. You want to get angry? Fuck the influence!

Don’t give up. Giving up is giving in. Fight!

Sit down, Elon - you’re getting yourself in a tizzy.

You know, none of what you’re offering is a real solution, don’t you?

There is such clear anti-Apple sentiment on most conversations here, it’s frustrating to post and I tend to avoid the channel more now. Some will say it’s their opinion that Apple is now evil and these kinds of stories are needed to combat fanboy enthusiasm. But - The channel is /c/apple-enthusiast; so yeah, we should be allowed to be a bit fanboyish.

I used to mod number of channels on Reddit, but especially on the Volkswagen ID.3 and electric vehicles channels there are so many people calling VW a pack of Nazis that I had to put a zero-tolerance in place so we can have decent conversations.

You can say it’s free an Internet and people should be allowed to do whatever they want, but we’re all a bit older than that… Right? You don’t open the movie house and then let people come in and yell fire; you don’t open a shooting gallery and allow people come in and take shots at other people. We should have civil rules on civility here.

Just my own opinion.

Bullshit.

Hey mods - does anyone ever look at these garbage anger-engine posts?

It’s not whataboutism - it’s a valid comparison of platforms in their space. Stop acting like your hate about Apple is valid and grow up.

The illusion is that a 3rd party has a chance. It didn’t when I voted for Anderson instead of Carter, and then Reagan got in. Never made that mistake again.

No, I poorly worded that the first time which gave it the wrong connotation. I think it’s just better to remove everything and forget this ever happened.

Yeah, that’s not what I’m saying. And if you want to try using the revised point, I made because clearly I didn’t make myself clear the first time.

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“The Democrats are corrupt as shit” - that’s some projection there, buddy. Another shit-talking republican/russian bot…

Was looking for this.

Always bought Patagonia, and they just repaired a 26-year-old ski vest for me, for free, as the inner lining was falling apart.

Wow - selected is just as bad. How about a less bright background, a border or inverting the gun and text?

@DAlpha - I’m not sure it matters these days. Apple Vision is both.

Edit: Am way old too, and yet I want to try it out badly.

There are plenty of headsets out there already, and by “most people” can I assume “not gamers”? Headsets are in use for most people and architectural work or design or gaming… Just not for people in general. It’s a niche.

The only reason for that is that there designs are based upon WHO they think their public IS and what they think the public can afford to buy. Their market defines the product, not the other way around.

But like the iPhone, Vision is going to redefine what you can do with a headset, and in that it will redefine who the market CAN BE.

When the price comes down enough maybe it will be for everybody, but for now, it will still be in niche item. It’s just that you’re gonna get a look at what a real headset can do, and I look forward to having my mind blown.

Like the Mac or the iPhone, you can’t tell until you start using it.

Never forget how much everyone balked at the phone because it didn’t have buttons or that it was too expensive. And then they used it.