• DaBabyAteMaDingo@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    You recall that Hamas attacked Israel in the bloodiest assault in history, right?

    You guys make me embarrassed to call myself a lefty.

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      1 year ago

      Well gee, that sure does give Isreal the right to do ethnic cleansing. It’s self defense after all so everything is permissible. /s

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        1 year ago

        The intentional misunderstanding you’re feigning is disgusting. There was literally one statement, you recall that Israel was attacked. And you inserted your own pro-Hamas dialogue to condem that instead of the attack.

        Do you understand the disconnect?

        You can be against the Israeli government’s war crimes AND against Hamas’ war crimes. Try it, having principals instead of an agenda is freeing and might feel good to you.

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          And you inserted your own pro-Hamas

          Saying that Isreal shouldn’t be killing civilians and doing ethnic cleansing is not pro-Hamas.

          Neither party should be doing those things.

          You can be against the Israeli government’s war crimes AND against Hamas’ war crimes.

          I am.

          Try it, having principals instead of an agenda is freeing and might feel good to you.

          Perhaps you could try not assuming the worst out of people you don’t know.

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            1 year ago

            In the context of the guy asking if you remember that on the 7th Israel just suffered a horrific terrorist attack and instead of saying yes I remember it, I condemn it, and that was horrible. And following up with that doesn’t make it right for Israel to kill civilians either. Which is a statement I completely agree with.

            Instead by refusing to acknowledge the question and just jumping to IDF war crimes, it reads like whataboutism.

            I’m only explaining in case you genuinely care to communicate more clearly. Look we both agree that the 7th doesn’t excuse what’s happening now in Gaza. But it wasn’t clear that you condemn Hamas’ crimes because you ignored that guy’s question.

            Cheers man

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              it reads like whataboutism.

              If you have problems with me saying ‘Isreal’s crimes are wrong’ without clarification about Hamas being bad as well then you should have first had problems with the guy saying “Hamas attacked Israel in the bloodiest assault in history”, implying everything Isreal is doing is morally permissible.

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                Dude, in RESPONSE to someone asking you about a horrific terrorist attack and war crimes by Hamas.

                If you really don’t understand, I don’t know how to help you. And if you’re just trolling, I’m done feeding. I tried to help you.

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                  Why do you pretend everybody is stupid? People know the history. They know the attack didn’t happen in a vacuum. They can also think it’s bad.

                  As a result of this they can tell when somebody is doing atrocity propaganda to defend and aid in Israel’s impunity to kill thousands of Palestinians.

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                    This person regularly engages in insidious faux-intellectual Islamaphobia and then hides behind a “hurr durr I also think Netanyahu bad, why do you love hamas so much” when pressed at all. Every single time I’ve seen them call out a specific user for antisemitism it’s been them conflating anti Zionism with antisemitism. It’s simultaneously excusing genocide and watering down antisemitism to being a meaningless term.

                    It’s blatant, embarassing, and morally bankrupt.

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          But you Hamas supporters

          I don’t support Hamas.

          and only care about Palestine because they’re brown

          No, I’m just against ethnic cleansing, which is what Isreal is currently doing and getting billions of dollars in support for.

          Isreal shouldn’t be doing ethnic cleansing, nor should Hamas.

          Your white guilt is so fucking lame 😂

          It’s really a sign of intelligence to assume things of people you don’t know and have only ever spoken to on the internet.

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              It would be funny to debate against you morons if it wasn’t so pathetic.

              Yep you sure showed that guy which person here is the moron… /S

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                1 year ago

                If your knowledge of this conflict only goes back ~50 years, then there’s lots of cool and interesting history you can study! I encourage it.

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                1 year ago

                The Gaza population has doubled in the last 20 years. If they are doing ethnic cleansing they’re doing a really bad job at it

                Meanwhile Jews are banned from almost all Muslim countries

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      1 year ago

      Hamas doing something horrible doesn’t make it OK to starve the entirety of Gaza though, not everyone inside Gaza is Hamas