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  • The average voters is low-information, doesn’t pay attention, and assumes both sides frequently lie.

    Voters have always been low-information. This isn’t anything new.

    Then it isn’t the fault of the Harris campaign.

    The entire reason we have primaries is that it forces candidates to actually try their hand at mass appeal and to take the temperature of the electorate.

    That would not make a difference if voters have always been low-information.

    You can blame it on those who don’t vote, but the truth is that most people pay attention to politics only tangentially. If you, as a political operator, didn’t find a way to reach these voters, you have failed.

    You mean like have multiple TV channels and foreign governments pump out endless propaganda? You’re right, the real issue in America is that there’s no Democrat version of Fox News, Newsmax, etc. and they haven’t reached out to Putin for help.

    Also, this is nothing like Reagan/Mondale. Reagan never said he would be a dictator. Reagan never quoted Hitler.



  • You still don’t get it.

    It isn’t about voting for Harris.

    It’s about voting against Trump.

    You can give me all sorts of reasons why Harris wasn’t an appealing candidate. It’s not relevant. Trump was a clear and present danger.

    I don’t give a shit about whether or not people liked her or whatever their idealistic reasons not to vote for her were. None of them justify allowing Trump to take office by refusing stop him from doing it. That is on people who refused to vote or vote third party. You were not going to get the candidate you wanted this year. You were a fool if you didn’t know that.


  • They had a reason to vote.

    Their reason was that a rapist fascist who quoted Hitler and clearly has dementia that promised to deport millions of people and be a dictator on day one only had a 50/50 chance of being president.

    And they didn’t care because they didn’t like Kamala Harris much. Was she any of those things? No. But her boss is funding the same genocide in Israel that Trump said to Netanyahu “finish the job” about on national television, so no one better vote for her either!

    Sorry, not a good enough reason to not stop Trump. Not a good enough reason to refuse to vote. Not a good enough reason to vote third party.

    For fuck’s sake, do you think people voted for Joe Biden in 2020 because they thought he would be a terrific president?


  • Nope. They can’t force anyone to vote for them. People thought not voting was a better plan than stopping the rapist fascist dictator when they only had two possible choices.

    There was an absolute mountain of evidence that Trump would be a disaster. They didn’t vote anyway because they knew they weren’t going to get a pony.

    Voting for people in a two-party system is the stupidest thing you can do because you will never get your way with any one politician. So you vote against and keep voting against until you get closer and closer to what you want.

    Just not voting or voting for third party candidates that will clearly lose against someone who has an automatic 30% of the vote doesn’t stop the worst possible thing from happening and it never will.

    If you didn’t vote to stop Trump from getting into office, I blame you. You had warning after warning and your idealism was more important to you.