• C4RP3_N0CT3M@kbin.social
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    Communism is authoritarian by nature. If everyone doesn’t subscribe to the communist ideology, then the model simply doesn’t work. This means you literally have no choice in a communist society but to be subjected to it. You also need some sort of authority to enforce the redistribution. Who decides who does that, and who gets what? My opinion is that the only way it’d work is maybe with AI, but even then, those in power will likely just manipulate the technology to continue to benefit themselves.

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      1 year ago

      On the same hand, even if you don’t subscribe to capitalist ideology you’re forced to participate.

      We (at least in the U.S.) have no real safety net for people who are unable to provide for themselves for whatever reason. Capitalism is great if you’re the one with the capital but if not the world can be a brutal, uncaring place and you can quite literally die on the street.

      Crime is endemic to capitalism and I feel like better social safety nets would pay huge dividends in a lot of ways.

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        Capitalism is not an ideology though. It’s just what naturally happens when humans interact with each other. Saying it’s an ideology is like saying atheism is a religion. No, it’s what happens when there is no religion.

        Crime is also not endemic to capitalism. It happens in all societies, including communist ones.

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          There are many many primitive societies with no concept of capital or capitalism so I think I’d take issue with your assertion that capitalism is “just what naturally happens when humans interact with each other.”

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            Absolutely. There is nothing “natural” about capitalism. It sprung up in some place of the world (not all) a couple of centuries ago. Thousands of years of humanity and no capitalism before that.

            There is nothing natural or inevitable about capitalism. Historical determinism is plain wrong. Capitalism is just one of many ways to organize a society. Its time will pass in due course. Probably not in our lifetimes, unfortunately.

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          Luckily this is a forum and we can all contribute to the discussion. If you read the comment you replied to you’ll see they mentioned living under unregulated capitalism; I was adding to what they’d said.