I have heard of homeless people reject wanting to live in housing because they had rules like no meth or curfew. Ask yourself why do homeless shelters run under capacity when there are still people on the street. Why is it that homeless populations are increasing but the percentage of people in shelters is decreasing?link to info on homeless
The honest truth is there are a lot of families and people who are down on their luck and my heart goes to these people. I also know there are a lot of addicts who dont give a flying fuck.
I dont think housing being a commodity has anything to do with this problem more than scarcity of homeless shelters. But if you made it easier to own a home for the unfortunate, we will likely see the same outcomes. Other countries like Britain or France have decommodified housing and they still have a sizable homeless population.
If you give the individuals who reject rules a luxury of owning a home, the only thing being solved is the eye sore by having certain people moved out of public view. The rest frankly just like being in the environment.
Does your housing have curfews enforced upon you? Does it require you to get rid of all of your possessions? Are you kicked out of it due to preexisting conditions? I am assuming not and I would guess that you would reject such housing as well. They are rejecting being treated as lesser human beings.
why do homeless people care about curfews they don’t have any pressing matters they need to deal with past 9pm other than scoring drugs and committing crimes. nothing good happens past 9pm
Idk, thats their business, that is the point. Also if we wanted to treat drug abuse seriously, there would be medical facilities to provide drugs legally so that they can receive proper treatment, reducing the black market sales and most likely drug related crime
Well, a lot of them have shitty jobs too. Like when I worked at a grocery store, evening crew would be there until 11pm. So I guess they would just get fucked then. There are a lot of working homeless.
Not at most shelters in high pop zones like mine. They fill up and won’t leave a bed vacant. There’s also no ins and outs, and there’s usually a few people moaning or screaming. Some asshole is usually wandering around looking at everyone’s stuff, and you are limited on the amount of possessions you are allowed to bring in with you (Which totally makes sense but still sucks to have to leave anything large you may have somewhere out of eyesight). It’s a hellscape. I’m honestly amazed they fill up with how shitty they are to get any sleep in.
Uh, they’re poor and probably rough hygenically, which means swing shift is their primary option. Your advice might as well be “be better!”. The point is that these aren’t all crackheads and crazy people.
Also I don’t think late jobs are as uncommon as you think they are. I personally wish they had daytime shelters to better serve what I really believe to be the most rehabitable members of the homeless population.
When I worked nights, there were always multiple people who lived out of their cars working with me.
Idk, thats their business, that is the point. Also if we wanted to treat drug abuse seriously, there would be medical facilities to provide drugs legally so that they can receive proper treatment, reducing the black market sales and most likely drug related crime
I disagree that giving drug addicts a free and unlimited supply of drugs is the best way to fight drug addiction. Treatment (with forced holds) I’m a proponent of.
I have heard of homeless people reject wanting to live in housing because they had rules like no meth or curfew. Ask yourself why do homeless shelters run under capacity when there are still people on the street. Why is it that homeless populations are increasing but the percentage of people in shelters is decreasing?link to info on homeless
The honest truth is there are a lot of families and people who are down on their luck and my heart goes to these people. I also know there are a lot of addicts who dont give a flying fuck.
Yes, so we should decommodify housing.
I dont think housing being a commodity has anything to do with this problem more than scarcity of homeless shelters. But if you made it easier to own a home for the unfortunate, we will likely see the same outcomes. Other countries like Britain or France have decommodified housing and they still have a sizable homeless population.
If you give the individuals who reject rules a luxury of owning a home, the only thing being solved is the eye sore by having certain people moved out of public view. The rest frankly just like being in the environment.
Does your housing have curfews enforced upon you? Does it require you to get rid of all of your possessions? Are you kicked out of it due to preexisting conditions? I am assuming not and I would guess that you would reject such housing as well. They are rejecting being treated as lesser human beings.
why do homeless people care about curfews they don’t have any pressing matters they need to deal with past 9pm other than scoring drugs and committing crimes. nothing good happens past 9pm
Idk, thats their business, that is the point. Also if we wanted to treat drug abuse seriously, there would be medical facilities to provide drugs legally so that they can receive proper treatment, reducing the black market sales and most likely drug related crime
Well, a lot of them have shitty jobs too. Like when I worked at a grocery store, evening crew would be there until 11pm. So I guess they would just get fucked then. There are a lot of working homeless.
You can get a curfew exception if you are working.
Not at most shelters in high pop zones like mine. They fill up and won’t leave a bed vacant. There’s also no ins and outs, and there’s usually a few people moaning or screaming. Some asshole is usually wandering around looking at everyone’s stuff, and you are limited on the amount of possessions you are allowed to bring in with you (Which totally makes sense but still sucks to have to leave anything large you may have somewhere out of eyesight). It’s a hellscape. I’m honestly amazed they fill up with how shitty they are to get any sleep in.
Then don’t get a job that works into the night. Jobs that you work past 6 are the minority of jobs.
Uh, they’re poor and probably rough hygenically, which means swing shift is their primary option. Your advice might as well be “be better!”. The point is that these aren’t all crackheads and crazy people. Also I don’t think late jobs are as uncommon as you think they are. I personally wish they had daytime shelters to better serve what I really believe to be the most rehabitable members of the homeless population.
When I worked nights, there were always multiple people who lived out of their cars working with me.
Idk, thats their business, that is the point. Also if we wanted to treat drug abuse seriously, there would be medical facilities to provide drugs legally so that they can receive proper treatment, reducing the black market sales and most likely drug related crime
I disagree that giving drug addicts a free and unlimited supply of drugs is the best way to fight drug addiction. Treatment (with forced holds) I’m a proponent of.