Italians have great raw ingredients, if only somebody would teach them how to use them.
From an European perspective, it has always been a point of divergence with my American friends and colleagues. They always want the fattier, more sugar-full version arguing there’s more taste and it’s “real food”, but in our point of view it taste like junk and don’t compete a second with a home-made traditional one (and are pricier !).
That. Unless Domino’s has a completely different pricing strategy in the US, They are the expensive option.
I like eating dominos once in a while, it’s a great sweet fatty snack, but it’s not cheaper.
Can’t speak for the US as a whole but everywhere I’ve lived Domino’s is the cheapest. I can get a medium 2 topping pizza at dominoes for $6.99. We have 3 family run traditional pizza places within driving distance of where I live, for a 2 topping medium pizza they cost: $14.75, $15.99, or $18.99.
It’s the second cheapest here if you for something you don’t cook at home after buying it frozen.
Little Ceaser’s would give an Italian aneurysm, buts like 5 bucks for a week of calories.
Domino’s is way cheaper than an actual Italian pizza in the US.
It’s also shit pizza, I’d rather buy a frozen one and put my own stuff on it. Then it’s cheaper and better.
Sugar is overrated AF.
Sugar is the devil. The devil is actually quite sweet. I also enjoy putting the devil in my mouth.
Have you ever blown the devil in the pale moonlight?
More of broad daylight in a dog park situation. Thank god for the staffing issues at the local PD
Is the local PD the devil you blow?
I have standards.
Proffessionals have standards
That’s my point about Italy having better ingredients. The assembling of the ingredients is the issue. This is why authentic Italian-American pizza is the best. The bougie places shell out for imported ingredients and cook them in the American style.
Im not saying you should go to naples to try the real one, but have you at least ever been to Italy?
Yes.
Just this month I was there and the pizza is a different concept there to be sure.
Street pizzas of thinly sliced zucchini or potato covering bread rounds with olive oil. That’s pizza in Rome.
Focaccia bread like crust with some anchovies and potatoe? Pizza.
Neapolitan style is just a different style again, but the theme is dough is not the delivery agent, it is the primary purpose. The dough is the important bit, with toppings being intended to enhance subtle flavors for it.
Italian pizza is most similar in American expectations of food typically found there, to flatbread dishes. It’s flatbread with some stuff on top to accent it. There is no cheese on most of the pizza I had in the various parts of Italy I was in. Cheese was not an expected component. Healthy or at least flavorful variations on additions to the dough are the goal.
Whether you are in Sardinia, Calabria, or Rome; pizza is pizza dough with local additives.
I have seen French fries on top of pizza in Sardinia, and this was called there “American pizza” :)
I have not been to Italy, but I have made several of the authentic recipes used as reference in “Modernist Pizza”. I know it’s called modernist, but they go back to the roots before rebuilding.
I highly recommend it to anyone who enjoys food history and techniques regardless of their desire to cook at home.
And you really think Domino’s is better? I believe the quality of the ingredients used are very, very different. With Domino’s specifically I only had bad experience and only in Europe, but when I was in NYC I tried some slice of NY style pizza and it was ok. But for me it was just a normal pizza like thousands I can have randomly around Italy.
It was authentic pizza that convinced me it’s true people eat with their eyes. Just deeply off putting and lacking in symmetry.
Of course it’s better if I put on the completely serious no fun hat. One is a chain the other is not. No such thing as a chain that’s better than non-chain. One is all about consistency and cost-cutting whereas the other is constantly judged solely on quality, usually with only a single shot at it.
When I was in Venice I only tried a Diavolo at a local restaurant. It certainly could be my American expectations but nothing amazed me about it; definitely feel like a bit more could be done to mesh the ingredients. Or, maybe my American brain just craved sweeter, cheesier stuff.
Then again, I went to Germany and the bread there was fantastic compared to America, so unless they boarded the sugar train it feels like there must be something that can be done right with good ingredients.
Venice is a hard place. Pretty much every restaurant is a tourist trap. For good food it is better to have different appetizer sized things in bars and trattorias. Didn’t find a single sit down classical restaurant with good food for reasonable price.
Idk man, I see a lot of mesh
This reads like such astroturfing advertisement. Also it’s just fucking sad if you really think domino’s is the height of pizza.
Yes, lemmy is large enough to get astroturfing bots now. Congratulations you are very smart.
It’s embarrassing how butthurt people are about this post. Euros can’t take a joke.
I enjoy seeing how many people had an opinion and lacked the words to express it. Cowards, I’ll suck you all off at the same time. Momma didn’t raise no coward and those massive American pizzas trained me for oral stretching.
Seeing Dominoes as the standard for American pizza fills me with sadness and shame.
Yes, I know it’s only a shitpost, but still.
Deep Dish erasure. It’s like our only original pizza contribution.
The perfidious Swede is known for curried bananas on their pizza. It could be worse.
Well, no. That would be tomatoes. Italians (and the world) have the indigenous peoples of the Americas to thank for that.
GOOD COMMENT, I’m stealing that for that when I repost this on genocide day to trigger people from New Jersey.
Pizza as a dish is an American dish at its core. Land and credit for Pizza back.
Deep dish is still better than anything Italy ever made, look at the amount of tomato in there. The defining ingredient.
Genocide day? What are we doing this year?
What holiday do Americans celebrate that might have something to do with making Italian-Americans upset?
I’ll give you a hint, he said this in a letter: “They do not bear arms, and do not know them. They have no iron. Their spears are made of cane. They would make fine slaves. With fifty men we could subjugate them all and make them do whatever we want.”
What do you mean expensive? A Margherita is usually around 7 euros
in the US they are bougie as shit and the cheapest are usually $17 with the average around $25. And they are usually much shittier than any you’ll find in Italy.
I paid 21 USD* (~19 EUR) for a margarita in North-West America yesterday :(
It was pretty good, but it was also small (12"/30cm).
* that’s before 10% VAT and 15% mandatory tip - you can basically add another 5.
Wow ok that’s steep (also margarita is Spanish not Italian)
margarita
Ha, that was my spellchecker :)
In Africa?
Who’s talking about Africa?
They use euros in Africa? We are talking about Italian pizza so I’m talking about Italy
Yep in Italy is dirt cheap but the further away you go the more the American style stays cheap while the Italian style becomes “gourmet” and gets more expensive.
Wow that sucks
You mean frozen pizza then?
Frozen Pizza is something like 4€ for 3 cheap pizzas or one slightly more fancy pizza. Germany, not Africa.
No way that’s true
https://shop.rewe.de/p/ja-steinofen-pizza-margherita-3x300g/8089206
Three frozen pizzas, 3€.
When I was living in London (pre brexit I don’t know now) I remember paying 6 pounds 50 for a really good napolitan pizza at “Da Michele” while dominoes was like 18 pounds for basically hot garbage
Okay, I’m going to be that guy because I don’t see it being pointed out already.
That’s not actual Italian pizza, it’s still an Americanized version.
Real Italian pizza is so thin you have to eat it with a fork and knife and it’s meant for one person, not to share. The one in the picture is still way too thick to be real Italian.
But real Italian pizza in Italy really is on another level. It’s so god damned good, it makes all pizza in America look like cardboard with sauce.
Exactly, plus it’s usually cheap as hell too, along with being mind blowing-ly good.
Not everyone gets the chance to go to Italy though, so just enjoy the pizza and op should stop gate keeping a delicious food.
I’m not gatekeeping, I’m countering the papist menace known as “single serve” pizzas.
It’s part of the anti-Freemason plot to prevent us eating communally in order to reduce obesity amongst alter boys.
It’s part of the anti-Freemason plot to prevent us eating communally in order to reduce obesity amongst alter boys.
thank you I needed this laugh
Glad it caused a laugh.
“Real italian pizza is so thin” Yeah that’s just not true, there are many different types of Italian pizza, the most standard of which is like the one pictured. The form varies in popularity by region.
Thicc pizza is my guilty pleasure
The one on the left was by an Italian in an Italian cultural zone known as new Amsterdam (fucking hipsters changing the names of everything).
I’m Italian, can confirm that that pizza looks like a correct napolitan style pizza
it’s funny how seriously people are taking this lol. good shitpost
I think the downvotes are from how obstinate I’m being. I clearly marked it with a /s
I know it’s a meme, but this is a dumb take. You’re comparing two very different things, and they serve two different purposes. Sometimes you want to crush some fast food at 2 am after drinking at the pub, sometimes you want to have really good pizza where less is more and the quality of the ingredients matter. Eat both and be happy you have pizza.
That’s the joke
Really good pizza
more bread than anything else
Come on, we both know the toppings are the star of the show and bread is the delivery vehicle.
See how thick that chonker on the left is? That’s because it has a higher bread to topping ratio.
And people accuse Americans of wanting more sugar. WHAT DOES BREAD TURN INTO?
Why is normie naked? This feels disturbing, please unpost this
Seems normal to me, I can’t order Domino’s unless I’m fully nude… phone or on person. Figured we all had that problem!
Reddit taught me that’s the normal way to answer and the driver takes the view in lieu of a tip
Maybe it’s different in the states, but Domino’s is ridiculously overpriced for pizza in the UK (yes I know you can always find a voucher), you can get two neapolitan pizzas and change for the price of some of the pizzas on the Domino’s menu.
Not really sure how they’re still afloat over here simply beyond existing momentum
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I kinda dig the bland crust. Not for eating, but for not eating. Like, sometimes you’d rather your calories come from toppings, and saving the crust for the next day to dip in those shitty marinara cups when you’re tired as hell is a good thing.
Like, not often, but sometimes.
Then again, we don’t do pizza often, and it’s usually when all adults are fucking wrecked via some bullshit or another that pushed us past our limits (both me and my wife are disabled, and my dad is old as fuck lol). If we want pizza to really enjoy I make it myself, or order it from the two yankees that set up a shop in town.
It’s good for sprinkling in the lawn of my bird-phobic neighbor. HOA wouldn’t let me get a Turkey to keep in the yard so I’ll attract a wild one damn it.
Other than LC who is cheaper? Only a fool orders pizza without a coupon so I’m assuming that’s being taken into account given the prevalence (that’s part of their pricing strategy, it’s built in).
I will copy my response to another poster:
Can’t speak for the US as a whole but everywhere I’ve lived Domino’s is the cheapest. I can get a medium 2 topping pizza at dominoes for $6.99. We have 3 family run traditional pizza places within driving distance of where I live, for a 2 topping medium pizza they cost: $14.75, $15.99, or $18.99.
It’s like that in the US too. I’m not a coupon person but I use an online coupon (it’s under Deals or something) every time with Dominoes.
there is an authentic italian pizza place around the corner from me where I can get two 16 inch peporoni pizzas for 15 quid which are 20xs better than the slop dominos provides
Imagine actually eating dominos when you have NY american pizza avilable lmao
Yeah it’s definitely not the cheap option but it’s still nice to have occasionally
Baffled at the plenty of toppings and lots of cheese notes. Maybe it’s just Dominoes in Canada but I’m fairly certain there’s less cardboard in the box it came in. To each their own I guess.
different supplier than the supply region I’m in, so I’ll take your word for it.
Maybe it’s part of the MAID plan? Easier to convince people if they don’t have good cheese to remind them that it’s worth going on until that next greasy slice.
Lore time:
This was around the 2010. It was about six to seven years since we migrated to New Mumbai - it was a new city, but it was a nice place. Not heavily cramped like Old Mumbai, fresh air, lots of greenery and poor and rich neighbourhoods weren’t seperated. We could only afford eating restaurant food once in a month. I was around 8 to 9 years old. As a lower-class Indian family, eating “American junk” was considered bourgie and posh during those days. When I mean lower-class, I’m talking about having no home appliances, like fridge, washing machine, A.C. or any of those stuff. Just a bunch of sleeping-mats, utensils and an old CRT T.V.
It so happened that during those days, Domino’s also started advertising their tacos. As kids, me and my sibling were fascinated by this American, “white-people” food. That day, we were supposed to eat some tandoori tikka chicken, roti and non-veg biriyani. We threw a tantrum, asking my dad to buy one of those new taco product - one of those boxes had two “large” tacos. Well, we ordered it.
And lo, behold, the delivery guy brings in the “American delight”. Well, at first, we were caught a little off-guard, because the box was tiny. Must be just our imagination , we thought. So my dad asks the delivery guy if that was the right order. He gives a weird look and leaves. So, we go running to the basin, wash our hands, and come back prancing. Open the box, and to our horror, we see two tiny, itty-bitty macron-sized tacos (never saw a macron in person, but I’m assuming it must be pretty small). And the taste? It felt like eating wall-paint flakes.
We ate one of those tacos, and my dad asks if we’re still hungry. Well, we did not complain. That day, both mom and dad slept hungry. ₹110 for a bunch of American crap, and we could have enjoyed a hearty Punjabi cuisine.
It was also after I started browsing over the internet, that I realised that fast-food restaurants target peasants and wage-slaves in their own land, and ironically, they sell it over here as if one of the many thousand gods kissed the dough while kneading.
Didn’t order their pizzas using my own money, but when I had the chance to visit my rich classmate’s birthday party, they would bring it, and it tasted like paperboard. This is a story for another time, but what basically happened was that I got a chance to visit a culinary school somewhere in Panvel, and the first-year guy over there made the best, Indi-Italian fusion pizza and pasta. Yes, we didn’t get a large slice, just a few bites, because it was a school trip, and there were a lot of students. But that was the best Italian dish I’ve experienced in my life.
Moral of the story: Fuck Domino’s and every other fast food restaurants except KFC.
food of the peasants
The ignorant peasants, yes. I can feed myself for two whole days off the price of a McDonald’s combo meal these days.
Eat the Mcslop citizen! A frugal wage-slave is bad for the economy, so do your part be precarious!
Memes aside, Punjabi food is definitely in the top tier when it comes to styles of Indian food (and Indian food is top tier already).
I feel like Punjabi cuisine is over-represented in the west, especially the first one. Almost every “Trying out Indian dish” video is Eastern Punjabi stuff, there’s hardly any Pakistani or alt-North Indian stuff. Not saying that it is bad, but that’s kind of like eating greasy American stuff - eating donuts and cheeseburgers once in a while is fine, but too much is just not good from a health-perspective.
What’s sad is that you folks haven’t tried Marathi dishes - I had the privilege of visiting Satara and Lonavla, which are two amazing places in Maharashtra, which is extremely under-rated - surprisingly, it is also very much under-represented in Mumbai, perhaps due to the influx of North Indian migrants. Yes, most of it is spicy, even by Indian standards, but they’re amazing. Especially Srikhand and Sabudana Khicdhi (sabudana pearls are made of tapioca, but they’re transparent-coloured, instead of being black like boba pearls). I’d also give a thumbs up to Konkani, Malabari and also (our) Mangalorean cuisine - my favourite being the Udupi-style Masala Dosae paired with Bringal-Moringa Sambar, and also the classic Sheera-Upma combo.
I feel you, variety is the spice of life (but that’s only after a vicious battle against cumin that could have gone either way).
That sounds awesome, I’m on the Wikipedia pages for a couple of those rn and you’re spot on. Nothing like it around me, but there is a Pakistani place that does Charsi Karahi with goat and it’s “viable contender for last meal” tier.
I need to learn how to make some Marathi food, when you said “spicy by Indian standards” you convinced me lol.
Thank you for sharing all this information and stuff. Not what I expected from a pizza shitpost.
If only the British were willing to share their culinary secrets and dental technology, many of the world’s problems could be solved decisively.
culinary secrets
A crybaby yelling at people and offering galaxy brain advice like “limit the size of your menu, it keeps consistency up” and “clean daily”?
dental technology
You’ve seen those haggard chompers, it’s a miracle they don’t fall out or bite themselves comically whilst speaking. Imagine what people who gave a shit could do with that dental necromancy
Pretty sure that 30 minutes or less thing hasn’t been a thing in forever
As with all retail, corporate accounts for people abusing the staff until the manager relents.
Don’t do it obviously, Scaphism is sometimes justified, but you will get that free pizza.
This is pathetic
L
You should read Alberto Grandi. Broaden those horizons, just like the new world did for Italian food.
a Domino’s white sauce, spinach, and feta pizza fucking slaps. but Little Caesar’s is cheaper than both, so 🤷🏼
bless up
