In audio intercepts from the front lines in Ukraine, Russian soldiers speak in shorthand of 200s to mean dead, 300s to mean wounded. The urge to flee has become common enough that they also talk of 500s — people who refuse to fight.

As the war grinds into its second winter, a growing number of Russian soldiers want out, as suggested in secret recordings obtained by The Associated Press of Russian soldiers calling home from the battlefields of the Kharkiv, Luhansk and Donetsk regions in Ukraine.

The calls offer a rare glimpse of the war as it looked through Russian eyes — a point of view that seldom makes its way into Western media, largely because Russia has made it a crime to speak honestly about the conflict in Ukraine. They also show clearly how the war has progressed, from the professional soldiers who initially powered Vladimir Putin’s full-scale invasion to men from all walks of life compelled to serve in grueling conditions.

“There’s no f------ ‘dying the death of the brave’ here,” one soldier told his brother from the front in Ukraine’s Kharkiv region. “You just die like a f------ earthworm.”

  • vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    10 months ago

    We need to be careful extrapolating this to general trends, because the ones doing the intercepting (likely the SBU/Ukrainian intelligence) decide what to release. This is not a random sample.

    I have no reason to doubt the intercepts are real, but I do wonder about the content of all the other intercepts that are not released.

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      10 months ago

      no you’re right, i’m sure there are places where the Russian soldiers are having a great time and not dying like dogs

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        10 months ago

        They must have a blast, otherwise, they would’ve done something about it, instead of just bitching. Everything points to the conclusion that they want to be there.

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          10 months ago

          Yes, everyone wants to be somewhere other than prison or dead in a ditch

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          10 months ago

          It’s so amusing to see comments from accounts that seem entirely oblivious to its own username. 🤦🏼‍♂️🖕🏽🤣

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        10 months ago

        I’m sure they had the code already, the fact that the US has “section 8” doesn’t mean they’re all going crazy.

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      10 months ago

      I imagine most of the calls are pretty similar to these ones. I can’t imagine there’s much morale left for the Russians.