I hope I will not get downvoted because I’m genuinely wondering
Lemmy almost has no users from neither Israel or Palestine, however most of communities filled with Anti Israel content, I even tried muting all news related communities, but now I see anti Israel content in completely unrelated communities, like !android@lemmy.world and !memes@sopuli.xyz
Is there a reason why Lemmy is so fixated on Israel/Palestine? Neither of other world conflicts get even close in terms of attention. It’s neither a case on my microblogging Fediverse account or my most “algoritmic” social media, even kbin part of the Threadiverse seems not as obsessed with it, what’s so different about Lemmy?
(Sorry for a bit clickbait-y title)
Edit: I actually might take down this post because half of people in replies completely misunderstood it
I can’t speak for others, but as I see it, the Israeli government is committing atrocities on a daily basis. So is Hamas. I’m against senseless violence in general, but since the IDF has the upper hand and has killed the most civilians in the current conflict, I’m more likely to complain about them.
I mean… while I defend the right of Israel to defend themselves from attacks, they’re basically committing genocide in the name of “defense” by not discerning between innocent Palestinians and Hamas. And thus, they have become the bad guys through their bad actions and are getting a lot of hate over it.
What Hamas did was atrocious, and how Israel responds is even worse. Where I live, people are not against Israel or Palestine per se. They are against violence and genocide. And rightfully so. No matter who commits the crimes, or where they are committed, they are still crimes and it’d frankly be weird not to condemn them in the strongest possible way. Is it really that difficult not to think only in terms of us-them. black-white, good-bad and/or left-right? The level of discourse (or absence thereof) is quite disheartening.
Lemmy originally has an anti-west bias. That naturally spans to general communities as well
you wish fewer people were horrified and outraged over active genocide?
Even if genocide happens as you say, I don’t see any attention to other genocides in the world on there, only to this specific war
Because it’s the most recent world event. Were you not seeing constant discussions about Russia/Ukraine when that first started?
Nobody ever mentions Africa is what’s weird to me.
There’s a very dark joke in the international community.
How do you move an article about 50k people being killed in a natural disaster from the front page to page 15?
Start the article with “Yesterday in Africa…”
Lemmy wasn’t as popular back and even tho it had it’s share of users, I wasn’t on it, so I can’t really say how it was on Lemmy
I have seen discussions about Russia-Ukrainian but I haven’t seen them at all outside of the political communities on Lemmy, and they seem limited to certain communities.
And is it the most recent world event?
This is a logical fallacy. For example just because the Uighur issue receives less present attention (because it’s not NEW) doesn’t make the latest attempt at genocide more acceptable.
We’re not sure how much is real and how much is Western propaganda. It’s not like our own nations don’t lie to us.
Western propoganda? I’m surprised you’re on kbin and not on lemmygrad
You’re so aware! /s because it’s needed. WMD and Iraq. Gulf of Tonkin. Plenty more.
Most really just dislike “the West” for its own misdeeds and interpret that as a cue to say “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”. This is a false way of going about themselves, especially considering the revelations about Palestine lately revolving crimes of mass violation, which are similar to what the perpetrators of the Nanjing Massacre did.
There is no shame in being deceived, but considering how I was treated for it all, I’ll be taking great relative pride in saying to everyone “I told you so”, just like I can do for Ukraine. Still don’t understood how anyone can say they’re pro-LGBT and not have at least a little respect for Israel or its people.
It also makes it misleading many of the people doing this siding identify as misanthropes when they like a whole faction of humanity enough to side unconditionally with them. A true misanthrope, by definition, sides with nobody. Take it from me. I have my reasons.
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##tl;dr Because Israel is breaking international law.
Are you stalking my profile now lol?
Maybe. Why? Does it bother you if people call out Israel?
Not really, there’s a lot of propoganda online so it’s completely understandable to me
I do find it concerning tho when a person first says that I should stop saying “bullshit” and then goes on as far to stalk my profile for my past posts
Well, in my defence, a lot of what you are saying IS bullshit.
I had a look into it and have to say: you got a point. OP still has to learn some things, but where’s life there is hope.
It’s funny because in the post they said that anti Israeli content bothers them, but they claim it doesn’t. I think it bothers them a lot. But what should bother them more is apartheid in Israel and genocide in the name of the Jewish people.
“Is there a reason why Lemmy is so fixated on Israel/Palestine?”
I figure that people who take the time to swap to federated social media are generally going to be people that are a little more political…
and Israel is currently actively committing genocide. So political people are posting anti-israel posts. It’s really not more complicated than that.There is a lot of leftist/communist who run lemmy. I guess they are aint jewish and pro palestine. My guess
Being anti Israel is not anti Jewish. Please don’t conflate the two.
considering Israel has no problem killing Palestinian Jews, where does that put them on the anti-semitic spectrum?
I know, I am completely not surprised by them, I am talking specifically about communities with zero relation to politics, to Israel or to Palestine. I apologize if I haven’t made it clear enough in my original post
It is so awesome to check the reduces to your post to update my blocklists on kbin - thanks for your service
The Fediverse is heavily far left-leaning. The far left is anti-Israel, and thus so are most Fediverse users.
I know it is, however I’m talking about communities that have no relation with politics, news, Israel or Palestine
Oh, I see. My guess is poor moderation.
Anti-genocide and anti-apartheid (antifascist) is not “far left.” Those things are far right.
What’s different about Lemmy compared to other sites? The Palestine/Israel conflict is the main topic point today. Everyone is talking about it everywhere, whether it be Reddit or Twitter. Are you up to date on the news?
I know it is the main political discourse, and yes I know how many attention it gets But I don’t see much attention to it outside of the political circles neither on Twitter or on Reddit outside of a few specific exceptions
Maybe you’re not subscribed to many places, I see it everywhere in my feeds. For what it’s worth I rarely see it on Lemmy outside of meme and politics communities.
On social media I usually have 2 accounts 1 political and 1 apolitical one, with different following and interactions in general. On my apolitical accounts even if I got such content in first week or two when everyone were talking about it I stopped getting it on my feeds since then.
One of commenters pointed that it might be a problem with mod actions federating then, even tho I’m not sure if that’s the reason.
Of course you will get downvoted because there is no nuance with those people (often Tankies or „anticolonional“/„antiimperial“ leftists) and when they hate on „Israel“ and „Zionism“, they more often than not, mean „Jews“.
And exactly those people are part of the reason that Jews are scared for their life all over the world.
As someone that considers himself a leftist, even by European standards, I am honestly disgusted by those people. I think „those people“ are willing to betray left values as long it is about Israel or Jews. Many of them even lack basic human empathy as long as „only“ Jews and/or Israelis are concerned.
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thanks @ElcaineVolta ! As you disapprove of my posts, I know I do the right things.
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There’s plenty of nuance to be had here, but there’s a clear cut reason as to why many are steering towards Anti-Israel, and it’s not Judaism.
It is true that Hamas has slaughtered innocent civilians, and Israel absolutely had to respond…
But how on Earth can you sit there and side with a country who’s reaction to a terrorist attack was to commit human rights violations and start a genocide against innocent civilians of that nationality?
Do you mean to tell me that bombing hundreds of innocent Palestinians, and then cutting off essential water and electricity to many more is a warranted response to any of this?
Also, since I keep seeing this - stop with the “Anti-Israel = Anti-Semite” crap - Israel is a Jewish state, not Judaism itself. This is the equivalent of saying Saudi Arbia represents all of Islam because of Mecca, or that the Vatican city represents all of Christianity.
Criticising Israel for playing a game of morality limbo with the Hamas isn’t an attack on Judaism, nor is it advocating for any kind of hatred towards Jewish people.
Though let’s be honest, if you won’t even take a Jewish person’s word for it that your take is shite, you’re never gonna take mine.
Seems to me you’re willing to abandon left values when it pertains to Palestine.
