• ExLisper@linux.community
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        9 months ago

        Yeah, they have all this money and the algorithms are getting more stupid. I hate it when saying “play Travis” (I use voice commands in car) always plays the exact same playlist in the exact same order. They also push the most popular songs on you so if a band you like did a shitty Barbie cover you will hear it all the time. And there’s no dislike button to get rid of it. On my phone I just play custom playlists because the algorithms suck so much.

        • flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works
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          9 months ago

          I can’t understand why people pay for this shit - how is that any better than the radio??

          (I still go the cheapskate route and maintain my own library)

      • joemo@lemmy.sdf.org
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        9 months ago

        I wish removing a song from my Discover weekly or similar lists actually worked. I swear I remove the same song from that playlist for months and it still shows up.

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        9 months ago

        There is one if you use the discovery features. Well, it’s not a dislike, but I think it does the same thing, maybe?

    • pl_woah@lemmy.ml
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      9 months ago

      Humans think real random isn’t random 🙃

      It’s wild but they see patterns

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        9 months ago

        The problem isn’t that their random is biased or has rules, the is that it is entirely deterministic, to the point where it will play the same exact songs, in the same exact order for days. It’s as if shuffle just activates a hidden “shuffle” playlist that only updates once a week.

        • lad@programming.dev
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          9 months ago

          I’d guess that every time user presses “shuffle” they just shuffle the playlist and never change the order afterwards. So song order is really not random it’s shuffled

        • pl_woah@lemmy.ml
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          9 months ago

          You and I might be talking about different things.

          I mean that humans don’t like theoretically true random, as a cool side note

          You seem upset about one implementation

          Also, shuffling and having something appear near even though you throught it was shuffled is part of that finding patterns

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            9 months ago

            Yep, I know what you’re talking about, but spotify weights songs it thinks you’ll like higher than other songs, and with big playlists it really is a noticeable problem. There are services that shuffle the order of your playlist, so then in spotify you play it with spotifys shuffle turned off, and yes there are “patterns” that I notice (one song I had in their twice, I think like a single version and album version, was right next to itself), but at least I actually hear songs I haven’t heard in a long time, and I don’t get the same ones regularly

          • pup_atlas@pawb.social
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            9 months ago

            Yes, that was what I was getting at. Not having true random is one thing, I understand (and like) that implementation. Apple has been doing it since the first few iPods. But Spotify “shuffle” isn’t near even, it is exactly even, as in “if you shuffle play this playlist twice two days in a row, it will play the exact same order”. Which is why people are complaining about Spotify specifically.

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        9 months ago

        Because my playlist has thousands of songs yet I hear the same ones a lot, their algorithm weights songs it thinks you like to be more common in the shuffle

  • lad@programming.dev
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    9 months ago

    My Spotify playlist with songs I want to check out is so long that the app breaks for several minutes when I start it up with that playlist 😅