• gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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    10 months ago

    It has to be said: considering how many chaotic and relatively recent things are going on in the world that are negatively impacting both Russia’s and China’s geopolitical adversaries, this reads as mighty fuckin’ suspicious, and raises more than a few pointed questions.

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      10 months ago

      Iran is really busy starting shit up. Making west put up their guard and decreasing arms export to Ukraine. Pretty sure Putin is just around the corner pulling strings.

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        10 months ago

        Iran has been backstopped by the USSR and later Russia since very shortly after the Iranian Revolution concluded. There were good reasons for that (the government they rebelled against was US-friendly, and in fact essentially installed by the US during the Iranian coup back in 1953), but the fact remains that they’ve had significant geopolitical ties for a long time, both overt and covert.

    • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      What is suspicious about it? What questions?

      This is the Axis of Evil. Russia, Iran, China, North Korea, and their proxies, it includes Hamas and Houthis.

      I would understand if you’ve been confused by all the pro Houthis comments here on Lemmee, which is absolutely insane and probably the result of an Iranian influence campaign.

      Iran and North Korea funded the tunnels in Gaza.

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        10 months ago

        There’s few differences between the state structure of North Korea and Saudi Arabia yet SA doesn’t show up on that list. Also this axis of evil is very funny to me because it’s just clearly from the American perspective, even though the US is to blame (UK is too) for the current shitty Iranian government because they reinstated and propped up the unpopular shah after a democratically elected revolution in the 50s, thus creating the environment the Islamic Revolution used to thrive.

        IIRC houthis are Shia and their goal was to overthrow the presumably Sunni SA-backed Yemeni government. They have support from Iran due to Shia ties and are a thorn in SAs power projection in the region. The US is allied to SA and Israel and clashes with Iran so it’s not surprising they’re being used to disrupt western interests. They would clearly have no love for the US because of its weapon provisions to SA.

        China and Russia, both adversarial to the US, love this and are clearly using anti-US / west sentiments to their benefit, even though they both are trash authoritarian governments. This is all, likely, a ripple effect from colonialism. China and Russia benefit from the US / the west having to fight the consequences of their colonialism, though both are neo-colonialists themselves.

        TLDR: this is all not really that surprising.

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        10 months ago

        Not sure what you mean re: “pro-Houthi comments” - I am not seeing much of that. At least in the communities I frequent, there doesn’t seem to be too much sympathy for a non-state actor who’s simply bandwagoning on the whole “let’s shoot missiles at Israel and see what happens” thing.

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        10 months ago

        “Axis of evil” bruh no. These are all pretty horrible states, but don’t act like the West isn’t currently funding and protecting a genocide. They’re not any more evil than the West.

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    10 months ago

    This is really just an Iranian puppet. Iran is getting crazier in their efforts to plunge the whole region into war.

    I hate to say it but the regime there needs to go.

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      10 months ago

      It’s coming, the groundwork is already being laid. I just saw several articles about Iran possessing nuclear material to build several bombs …

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        That ‘iran has enough material to build a bomb’ headline is just fear-mongering to increase support for western operations in iran (which by the way would be disastrous for all countries involved, think the war in Iraq but with outcomes that are 10 times worse). Just getting enough fissile material isn’t enough to make a viable nuclear weapons program. You need a viable nuclear weapons delivery system. You need to miniaturise the bomb to fit on your weapons system. If you manage to make the bomb but it weighs 50 tonnes, requires a liquid tritium factory on site and you only have one you haven’t created a nuclear weapons program. You’ve made a really destructive physics experiment.

        I wouldn’t start getting worried until Iran starts testing ICBM, submarines, satellites and command and control structures that can handle the responsibility of nuclear weapons. In the mean time they probably refining materials for civilian and political reasons.

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          That was my point, the fear mongering about nuclear weapons is going to be the excuse they use to invade Iran. Doesn’t matter how likely it really is(see Iraq and WMDs).

          The whole place is already a shit show. I don’t know how much more disasterous it can get. My only real concern would be if Pakistan and India got involved. Not that I’m hoping for the war to spread but I’m not seeing many options.

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    10 months ago

    Well of course. We’re all at War. Putin has launched a war against the entire world and his allies are helping them. And if Donald Trump wins the presidency he’ll have another Ally.

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      10 months ago

      China cut direct financial ties to Russia due to secondary sanctions by the US. This isn’t a Ukrainian war thing, this is a “Iran and Houthi opposition to Western support of Israel” thing.

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          10 months ago

          Couple things here:

          • Trade is not synonymous with support
          • China is opposed to the West as well, creating incentives for Ansar Allah to avoid antagonizing China
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            10 months ago

            Denmark isn’t sending arms to Israel, so why are their ships being attacked?

            Ultimately, this is a “Iran and Houthi opposition to the West” thing.

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      10 months ago

      Until China starts shooting, we’re still in the prelude.

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    10 months ago

    Cool. We’ll just slide through next to their ships. Problem solved!

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      10 months ago

      Everyone start registering their ships in Slovenia and flying versions of the flag with an even smaller coat of arms