The adversarial relationship between Washington and Moscow prevented U.S. officials from sharing any information about the plot beyond what was necessary, out of fear Russian authorities might learn their intelligence sources or methods.

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    Mr. Bortnikov, the F.S.B. director, said on Tuesday that Islamist extremists alone couldn’t possibly have carried out the attack. He blamed, among others, the United States.

    Gee, I dunno how three or four lunatics could acquire guns.

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    The attack was claimed by ISIS-K - a foreign fighter offshoot/offbrand. Funny thing is that ISIS-K fighters were getting lifts from American chanook helicopters in Afghanistan and is largely made up of US assets and/or people formerly trained by the US in Afghanistan.

    Lots points to it being a CIA asset, tldr. They’re a dirty army that can be used to keep an area distabilised or prevent other geopolitical powers from building infrastructure/influence (the nutshell purpose of ISIS-K, particularly in Afghanistan to prevent pipelines being built).

    They had the inside scoop on an attack outside any usual operating theatre by a group with tangible links to US cooperation/orientation? No kidding.

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    We told them there was an increased risk. They don’t need to know how we know or the specifics. They chose not to listen or act, and completely dismissed our advice as nonsense. This is on them.

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      The US publicly said that there was an increased risk in Moscow for the 48 hours following March 7th. Whether they privately said anything more is unknown (neither side is too eager to share).

      Indeed, for the 48 hours following March 7th, security at places like Crocus City Hall was ramped up.

      Edit: would you like to hazard a guess as to what was happening at Crocus City Hall on March 7th-9th?

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      “We” “Our”

      you are not the American government. They are your oppressors. They are not on your side.

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      Pfffft… Russia already knew it was Ukraine long before USA received intel about ISIS preparing the attack. /s

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        NATO was formed in 1949, already after 2nd world war. Russia has been hated for way longer, so much so that countries neighboring it saw “allying”* with nazis preferable over having Russia take over them

        *some didn’t have much option, allying or being taken over with much more violence

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          Russia did not take over anyone, though. Infact, USSR broke up into many countries, and today we have Russia, a country that US ex-VP Dick Cheney once said NATO’s goal was to balkanise. Anglos have instilled hatred against communism for a couple centuries now.

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            I’m including USSR in the term Russia because obvious reasons, it was still the same country with different name, and USSR annexed bunch of countries around it.

            Those countries that “broke from USSR” were independent nations before.

            No one has instilled as much hate against communism as the few dictatorships calling themselves communist have. Not even USA, where ‘communist’ has been a slur for the past hundred years

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              No one has instilled as much hate against communism as the few dictatorships calling themselves communist have

              Which dictatorships are these?

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                I should have probably said they claim to be socialist, but USSR and North Korea was first ones in my mind.

                I like your question, it’s only purpose is to try catch me on some small technicality, or get a chance to bombard 17 links to tankie wiki with alternative facts about how Stalin was actually a great democratically selected leader

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                  Stalin was far greater than any US President and a lot of presidents/heads in European countries that have had anti-immigrant and/or white coloniser agenda, solely on the basis that Stalin never genocided any aboriginals or natives, or discriminated against people that are not Caucasians.

                  It is interesting that you think USSR and DPRK are dictatorships, just because they oppose imperialist white fascism, are socialist states, and face sanctions or atrocities. North Korea today is so poor because USA bombed the fuck out of it in 1980s.

                  Bet you think USA and Europe are “civilised” democracy places? I would also correct you on that. Every single western country that today claims to be a democracy, until they looted, pillaged and genocided in non-white countries, were all dictatorships. There was no western democracy, and there is still none. And they are less democratic than whatever China/Russia are, despite centuries of looting and genocide. Try to voice against western heads, war crimes and actual problems and see how fast you get jailed or disappeared or starved to death.

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            The Red Scare is a more like side goal because communism threatens oligarchies. The Soviet Union also had its hand in persecuting communists.

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    First it was that they did it and now it’s that Americans didn’t do enough to stop it lol.

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      Honestly the fact they gave them a heads-up at all is extra. If Russia knew about an attack coming in America they would 100% keep that shit to themselves.

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        During the Obama administration, the national security director (I think) created the policy of “duty to inform”. The idea being that American intelligence agencies had a duty to inform a target if they knew about an upcoming attack (even an adversary). A big exception is when the warning would compromise the source of the information.