Note: I don’t know if I’m posting this in the right community, I joined Lemmy recently.
I use KDE Neon on my desktop, and I recently decided to install Linux on my laptop. I don’t want to install KDE Neon onto my laptop though, because it only has fairly up to date software through Flatpak (at least for me).
Is there a good distro with very up to date software that doesn’t require me to check on it often, and that I can probably make it work within 15 days? (I have the list of apps I need.) I prefer an Arch-based distro that lets me remove a lot of distro specific customization. However, if there is some other distro “base” that has software up to date like Arch and the AUR, please also let me know.
(I tried Arch already, but it seems to be too hard for me to configure, and it has multiple weird issues for me, so I don’t really want to use it.)
Edit 1: (Late edit because lemmy.world was down for the day) I am going to try out Fedora KDE, Endeavour KDE, and Manjaro KDE out. Might also check out Kinoite. Will update after I have tested each.
Ubuntu LTS GNOME. Just avoid listening to experienced zealots as a newcomer. You want a ton of newbie friendly help, and avoiding the “Linux community” as much as possible is a great way to learn Linux, because it has a lot of Arch/Fedora stans who will piss you off.
https://lemmy.ml/post/511377
This guide should help you a lot.
I don’t mean to argue, but is any LTS a good recommendation for someone looking for more up to date software than Neon?
Don’t get me wrong - it’s stable and all that, I guess (although I haven’t been a fan of Ubuntu over Debian in a long time), and it’s definitely noon friendly. I’m just saying when one of their specific requests is “up to date” an LTS might not be the best choice.
A newbie needs all the stability and Windows-tier accessible community support. Ubuntu LTS means you install the distro for 5 years and forget most of the worries other than 5 anti cheat games that do not work. Companies, developers and script kiddies on GitHub always prioritise Ubuntu/Debian over anything else.
Ubuntu LTS is a polished version of Debian Unstable, whigh means you get the LTS support with the freshest repository packages you can get. Debian Stable is the one with delayed, ultra stable packages. I use Debian Stable. Used Ubuntu LTS for 6 years until June.
I don’t disagree with any of that. I’m not saying it’s a bad recommendation overall. LTS releases are good for people that don’t want to get their hands dirty and just want something that works.
But OP was specifically looking for something more up to date than KDE Neon… which is based on LTS. So while all your reasoning is valid as to why OP should use it, it’s not what they’re looking for. In fact, it’s exactly what they’re trying to move away from.
Plus, they’re looking to expand their horizons. It’s hard to do that by playing it safe.
For those about to read this you should not use alcohol “anything above 70 percent” on monitors.
Edit:
TLDR: OP’s guide said to use alcohol, I disagreed. Comments felt harsh and condescending to me. I replied just as harsh and it became a breif circle jerk of arguing about alcohol or water. In the end I realize that I am semi wrong and op in the comments were right is write but their guide was wrong and doesn’t list any of the addition information he put in the comments below.
How to clean screens:
Ben Q Monitors Guide
Zd Net’s guide on cleaning monitors
100% alcohol is different than 70% alcohol, which is what exists as sanitiser and in glass wipe/clean liquid for homes. Be careful when criticising advice and take into account what is being said. Using a tissue with sanitiser to wipe clean surfaces, followed by a plain water and dry wipe, is the best way to clean almost all things, which includes computer screens.
Be careful when you don’t fact check what you are spewing out.
Any type of alcohol on any type of LCD or modern panel screen can cause the screen to discolor or damage the screen. Any amount of alcohol hasn’t been recommended since the late 2000s. Even manufactures DO NOT recommend any type of alcohol or rubbing alcohol.
Using alcohol, rubbing alcohol, or bleach can leave permanent scars on your screen and or ruin your monitors screen coating.
Edit: alcohol is alcohol, don’t use it ever on a modern display.
Diluted alcohol is NOT the same as pure concentrated alcohol. You are doubling down on misinformation. Your point only applies in the most niche scenario of an oleophobic coating, which is extremely rare on laptop screens, and is common on smartphone screens.
I am using 70% alcohol on a tissue paper for my ThinkPad anti glare screen since more than 6 years, and there has been no discolouration. The same goes for my desktop which has a glass monitor, and other LG and AOC monitors in the past with anti glare non glass screens. I am cleaning them with this procedure since probably 15+ years at this point, with no discolouration signs.
I photograph and have a good pair of eyes to spot even the tiniest dead or discoloured pixel, or blots on CRTs, and considering how long I have been cleaning glass and non glass screens this way, this is a reliable method coming from experience.
Good for you, everyone has “their” tried and true. I don’t give a crap if you do photography, I have done design and photography for 10+ years in my free time and unless you are using color accurate monitors you will always have pixel discoloration to some degree.
I came at you with the same energy that you came at me with. You are however missing the point.
Rubbing alcohol is diluted alcohol and manufactures, especially if you are using glossy screens, recommend that you don’t use alcohol or rubbing alcohol.
I can say from experience not all monitors react the same but it shouldn’t be in a recommend guide and if it is going to be in a guide helping people then it should have a note stating that you shouldn’t always use alcohol and the risk that come with it. Working in the tech industry for over 15+ years we haven’t recommend using alcohol on monitors since CRT monitors. The risk isn’t worth the reward and the user should always start with just plain water in a mist bottle and a microfiber.
Good for you too. I am not worried about your anecdotal claims, just the way you do not care. Same conflicting energy here. I clean camera lenses as well with leather cloth, so I know pretty well how sensitively surfaces should be treated. Camera lenses is as sensitive as it gets.
People who get affected the most are people that do not know how to perform the procedure, and do one of these two mistakes – they spray diluted alcohol directly on screen and clean, and/or even if they use a cleaning cloth or tissue with alcohol, they will not follow it up with a clean water and dry wipe.
The proper procedure to clean screens is to use diluted alcohol on a tissue or leather cloth patch, clean the screen AND THEN immediately follow it up with a water soaked cloth wipe and then a dry wipe.
Good luck cleaning oily greasy dust off screens with just water. Maybe give us that magical water too.
I don’t know why you came after my comment so harsh on the first thing I mentioned. I understand its your guide that you created and put time into but take the criticism when you can because it will only make it better. Your guide doesn’t state any of what you just stated it just tells people to use alcohol.
at some point it was told to me to not use alcohol and that is still a true statement but it seems if you do use rubbing alcohol you need to make sure its 70 at the very most.
you should also probably state that the user should use a fine microfiber close to suede like not the fluffy kind.
I am done with this circle jerk. there is not right or wrong between us as we are both correct there is just one thing to make sure is update the guide to reflect what you wrote above.
This is why. Read up on Newton’s Third Law of Motion.
You first rejected something that is correct in terms of chemistry, and you then expect me to take you seriously? Your claim that alcohol, regardless of its concentration amount, is the same, is unintelligent, which is the basis of your tripling down on misinformation.
There is a right and wrong, when it comes to science. And you are the wrong one here. Its best to know when to quit yapping in life, takes you a long way.
When people clean something as delicate as an electronic screen, it is a given that they will not use sandpaper or a scrub to clean it. I assume that in my guide that they will use either a tissue paper or a microfiber cloth like a muslin cloth or an old worn shirt or vest, which is just about everyone who uses a smartphone with a tempered glass protector these days. This is not 2010.
KDE Neon uses Ubuntu LTS as it’s base, so if the former’s packages aren’t up-to-date enough the latter won’t either.
For more recent packages I’d recommend Arch, Fedora and OpenSuse.
Edit:
KDE is not something I can recommend over GNOME. KDE presents an overload of customisable functions and is not polished. GNOME is not even in the same ballpark as other DEs, as far as polishing and ease of use goes.