Pre-occupy, gender identity and race-based issues were known but not talked about a great deal in the public sphere. They weren’t the core identity of a large number of people, and they were something that was ‘allowed’ to be discussed without blind following or rage.
During occupy, OWS organizers started what they called an ‘egalitarian stance’, which was a way to reframe the available classes to fight against in class warfare, were those more privileged than you (race, gender, identity politics) instead of financial privilege. If you were a white male, whether disabled or had a speech impediment or whatever, you were more privileged than anyone and you lost your rung in the ladder, you were now the lowest class. White women were just above you. Minority groups (race and gender, poverty level not included) became the prevailing upper-class and had the most right to speak.
OWS quickly lost momentum after a number of changes like this, and the conversation was no longer about class warfare, but about privilege, meaning only race and gender (initially). I believe there were leaked documents (unsure if verified) that the FBI was seeking, or had gained, access to OWS leadership positions. It seems obvious they would attempt it. This is something someone will have to confirm or correct me on, because a quick search isn’t pulling the documents and I need to run.
The white supremacists are willing idiots. I don’t doubt they were leveraged to inflame race relations, same way Russia took advantage of the BLM movement to create division.
And non-white liberals? Are they simply self hating, because they disagree with you?
Frankly, at this point, I find the concept of you being a leftist utterly laughable. You’re indistinguishable from a conservative cosplaying as a “leftist” to show how rude and insensible they are.
That kind of has a nice ring to it actually. I’ll be seeing you around, conservative.
Try looking up the correlation between the Occupy movement in '08 and the rise in race-based discussion in the media that came right afterwards ;)
What are you insinuating? I’m not following.
The upper crust and intelligence apparatus was incredibly uncomfortable with OWS for obvious reasons.
Preface: short (2min) video of an Occupy meeting near the end https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W81A1kTXPa4
Pre-occupy, gender identity and race-based issues were known but not talked about a great deal in the public sphere. They weren’t the core identity of a large number of people, and they were something that was ‘allowed’ to be discussed without blind following or rage.
During occupy, OWS organizers started what they called an ‘egalitarian stance’, which was a way to reframe the available classes to fight against in class warfare, were those more privileged than you (race, gender, identity politics) instead of financial privilege. If you were a white male, whether disabled or had a speech impediment or whatever, you were more privileged than anyone and you lost your rung in the ladder, you were now the lowest class. White women were just above you. Minority groups (race and gender, poverty level not included) became the prevailing upper-class and had the most right to speak.
OWS quickly lost momentum after a number of changes like this, and the conversation was no longer about class warfare, but about privilege, meaning only race and gender (initially). I believe there were leaked documents (unsure if verified) that the FBI was seeking, or had gained, access to OWS leadership positions. It seems obvious they would attempt it. This is something someone will have to confirm or correct me on, because a quick search isn’t pulling the documents and I need to run.
Tangentially related, because who doesn’t love graphs and data: https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/
Riiight… it cannot possibly be the white supremacism that’s so fundamental to US society - it must be the Alphabet agencies!
The white supremacists are willing idiots. I don’t doubt they were leveraged to inflame race relations, same way Russia took advantage of the BLM movement to create division.
You cannot divide that which has already been divided, liberal.
Tankie detected. Opinion: disregarded
Oh look… a liberal that doesn’t know what the term “tankie” means.
And like all liberals, you are desperate to hide how comfortable you are with white supremacism.
Yawn.
And non-white liberals? Are they simply self hating, because they disagree with you?
Frankly, at this point, I find the concept of you being a leftist utterly laughable. You’re indistinguishable from a conservative cosplaying as a “leftist” to show how rude and insensible they are.
That kind of has a nice ring to it actually. I’ll be seeing you around, conservative.
You got me there - but, I’m afraid, not for the reason you think.
In fact… the term “white liberal” is pretty much redundant. And I’m not even close to being the first person to figure that out.
There’s a good reason leftists say, “kill the liberal inside your own head.”
Nobody cares.
I guess all the people protesting the genocide in Gaza is also just a sign of “foreign agents” infiltrating the US?
Liberalism really is a gross thing.
So you’re bad at reading too