The Biden administration said Friday it would again delay a decision on a regulation aiming to ban menthol-flavored cigarettes, citing the “historic attention” and “immense amount of feedback” on the controversial proposal by the Food and Drug Administration.
“This rule has garnered historic attention and the public comment period has yielded an immense amount of feedback, including from various elements of the civil rights and criminal justice movement,” Health and Human Services Secretary Xavier Becerra said in a statement.
I am not a fan of banning things, but I think we all have our exceptions. I guess that makes us all hypocrites.
Cigs I’m torn on, while I think that if someone wants to do it regardless of if it kills them, I think that’s fine. But on the other hand, the chance to spare a new generation of the statistical amount of pain it will cause on seemingly random users.
(SciFi brain kicks in) And what if a cure for all cancers, heart conditions, etc, a world where most diseases were cured, then this talk would have to be revisited.
Back to reality, a world where cancer is often terminal. In that world, where we live, I like the idea of a law like, after X year, people under Y age cannot buy cigs. You can insert your own X and Y, I’m not debating that. I just think that eventually, it would be a long term positive thing for humanity to choose values for X and Y.
The point is that they aren’t banning cigarettes but are banning things that make cigarettes more appealing to consume. You could smoke a non menthol.
I’m done with smokers. Done. My patio is covered in cigarette butts because of jackasses who think it’s acceptable to toss butts out of windows. On the ground, etc. what other group just walks around, finishes their product and tosses the refuse on the ground? I’m sick of smokers, and at the vet least I think they should pay a premium for healthcare since I’m in a universal healthcare nation
Nothing should be banned is just makes for an unregulated thus unsafe market for consumers.
That said this is some real nickle and dime kinda shit for the constituents isn’t it? Can we line up a vote on healthcare or more student loan relief. I don’t really give a fuck about cigarettes.
Devil’s Advocate- What is the benefit of cigarettes other than satisfying an already established addiction? Alcohol aids socialization, marijuana has countless benefits, even fentanyl is an effective painkiller. Keep in mind, nicotine can be taken without cigarettes.
I’m not for governmental control or banning myself, but it’s an argument that I’ve heard that I find rather compelling.
I think nicotine has positive affects staving off dementia? I can’t recall where I heard that or if it’s true so know that I have low confidence in this. But nicotine itself, through patches, “snus”, or other “non-cigarette” consumption methods that are less destructive, should be permitted.
I see no problem with people having a chemical dependency on nicotine if they choose it.
The method of imbibing is the only part I’m focused on because inhalation of tobacco/menthol products causes so much harm, and the product can still be enjoyed without that method of imbibing.
If someone wants to assemble their own menthol cigs, like how people brew/distill their own alcohol… I suppose that is fine also.
I keep going in circles on this, I’m fairly conflicted and the more I think about it the more I realize how hard this is. In reality we want to ban a method od consumption, not the chemical itself.
Right. Nicotine has benefits, but it can be taken independently of smoking. The rest of the cigarette is carcinogenic.
Where are the protests in colleges against this? I’ve never seen or heard of one, so what is this tomfoolery? Quit your lying Jack, and stop sending arms to Israel
Edit: Sorry, forgot the /s
(Star wars anikin and pademe meme)
“We react to massive negative feedback!”
“So you can stop Israeli aid now? Right?”
no we just got tons of money to stop it and say it’s feedback
Great, in a country where smoking rates have steadily declined across all major demographic groups since the 70’s, this is the kind of legislation we are worrying about.
Forget about actually pressing issues like the crushing student debt and college costs, general consumer debt, soaring medical costs, soaring housing costs, homelessness in major cities, the genocide in Palestine, the growing environmental crisis, the erosion of civil liberties and labor rights… But we gotta talk about banning Menthol cigarettes…
You know they can work on more than one thing at once, right? And the administration has more control over some things than others.
Can they though? Hows this congresses track record on passing bills in a timely manner?
Congress is actually the perfect example. Most of the time spent on a bill is just waiting. If they didn’t work on multiple bills at the same time, it would be even slower.
We should pass whatever good regulation we can. This is good regulation
Sounds good to me, gancho.
Nanny state. This type of shit is why fascist pick up steam.
Yep. As we all know the EU & UK both became a fascist hellhole after they… *checks notes* banned menthol cigarettes…?
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Did the UK? I was smoking them back in 2010 there.
Huh, cheers. Didn’t notice that last year but then cigarettes are now behind covers at stores so you can only see names and prices these days, so I guess I was only paying attention to the very high prices.
Complete waste of political capital. Anyone in favor of it isn’t all of a sudden voting for you because of it and anyone against it is less likely to vote for you because of it.
Seriously, are they this incompetent to even propose it?
