Given how “therapy” programs like this are, at best, complete bullshit and, at worst, full of fraud and abuse, I’m leaning on supporting the kids here.
Honestly even if the place is totally fine and treats the kids well, they’re teens doing silly teen things, slap on the wrist at most…
These “silly teen things” could have very well ended with themselves or someone else dead.
You can’t blame kids for trying to get away from camps if they’re abusive.
For anyone not aware of what goes on in some of these camps, give this a read: https://elan.school/
Trigger warning.
Nowhere did I say kids shouldn’t do whatever they can to escape abuse, I wholeheartedly agree with that. I was addressing the fact that the original comment was saying that there should be no consequences regardless if it was an abusive environment.
I hear you and admit that I did misunderstand your point. Thanks for chiming in and clarifying. For the record, I didn’t downvote you and I’m sorry you’re being misunderstood overall.
That’s not a good enough excuse to not treat them like the children they are, with compassion and empathy. Scare mongering helps exactly nobody.
We were driving through absolutely middle of nowhere western Washington once, forest everywhere, and started seeing signs like “do not stop for teens” or “don’t pick up hitchhiking kids”. We figured it was likely a cult or conversion camp since there weren’t any jouvies in that area, probably we would have ignored the signs and helped someone out if they asked
Calling this a therapy program is like calling leeches a cancer treatment.
In a situation like this, it would be good to hear what they have to say. They are cut off from social media, completely deprived of the ability to communicate with someone to represent their point of view. This is terrible and the place is likely awful for them to have tried to escape like this. I hope one day when they get out of there they let people know if it was a terrible place.
Escape is the first duty of every prisoner.
— Worf
Die.
— Worf
“And people say that I do not have a sense of humor.”
Troubled teen program? Is it gay conversion or a child molestation camp?
Probably all three.
Edit: jesus they are stranded on an island in fucking Alaska. I can only imagine how little oversight there is (which is why it’s so isolated) and how much abuse must occur there because of it.
Its probably similar to elan.school. Schools where “kidnapping” is a thing are fucking disgusting
There another place in Washington state called Secret Harbor School. According to Wikipedia, there were 52 escape attempts over three years
Why would those be separate things?
I grew up in the same area as this place had no idea it existed. So messed up thinking about what was happening 20 minutes from my house and it ran until like 2011!
Fuck parents and family that think signing up kids to these “therapy” programs is a good thing.
“Both young men are back and safe and things are settling well.”
Fuck these backwards turds that think this is ok.
Wonder if one of them is secretly a basilisk from the boiling isles?
The picture made me think it’s a landslide news.